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Zen Technologies Ltd Q1 FY25 Earnings Conference Call Insights

Key highlights from Zen Technologies Ltd (ZENTEC) Q1 FY25 Earnings Concall

  • Financial Performance
    • Company is on track to meet its $900 million turnover target for the year.
    • Aims to maintain an average gross margin of 35% and profit after tax of 25%.
    • The company expects to easily sustain the 25% profit after tax target.
  • Simulator Market Trends
    • Shift from technical training simulators to tactical training simulators.
    • Armies worldwide now prioritize realistic combat training over having the latest equipment.
    • The company sees this as validation of their long-held approach to training.
    • Experiencing increased inquiries for training systems from both domestic and international customers.
  • Counter-Drone Systems
    • Demand for counter-drone systems accelerating rapidly.
    • Shift from soft-kill to hard-kill anti-drone systems.
    • Aims to lead the market in both soft-kill and hard-kill anti-drone systems.
    • The company sees counter-drone systems as a key growth area alongside training simulators.
    • Company’s counter-drone system classified as IDDM and owns the IP for all key components.
  • Product Innovations
    • Introduced a lightweight remote-controlled weapon system weighing less than 40 kg.
    • The Hawkeye camera system with a 40 km range for vehicles and 15 km for humans.
    • Unveiled Durgam, a rugged camera designed for armored and artillery forces.
    • Plan to integrate more AI capabilities to reduce human intervention in dangerous situations.
  • Market Opportunity
    • The company estimates a 10,000 crore market for counter-drone systems over the next 3-5 years.
    • Expects to revise this estimate upwards significantly in the near future.
    • Demand increasing both in India and overseas markets.
  • Export Revenue
    • No export revenues were recognized in the current quarter.
    • This aligns with the company’s expectations and execution schedule.
    • The next couple of quarters are expected to see significant export revenue recognition.
    • Export revenues may become heavier than domestic revenues in upcoming quarters.
    • Revenue mix varies between simulators, anti-drone systems, exports, and domestic sales across quarters.
  • Acquisition Strategy
    • Company is actively looking for acquisitions in electronic warfare and training/simulation areas.
    • Goal is to increase product attractiveness by creating synergies through acquisitions.
  • Order Inflow Expectations
    • The company expects substantial order inflow in 4Q25.
    • Some orders are anticipated to start coming in by the end of 3Q.
    • Order pipeline looks promising, giving confidence in securing a reasonable amount of orders.
    • The company believes it will be able to execute these orders in the following year.
  • Margin Breakdown
    • The company’s anti-drone systems have an EBITDA margin of around 30%.
    • Training simulators have a higher EBITDA margin of about 40%.
    • Average EBITDA margin of approximately 35%.
  • Revenue Projections
    • Maintains guidance of over INR900 crore revenue for the current year.
    • Expects to reach INR2000 crore revenue in about two years at an average CAGR of about 50%.
    • New product revenues are expected to be additional to the existing projections.
    • Aims for a PAT of 25% on the projected revenue.
  • QIP Fund Utilization
    • The company has proposed a QIP for raising funds.
    • Some funds might be allocated for working capital to support sales scaling.
    • The company plans to invest in high-level R&D for simulators and anti-drone systems.
  • Growth Trajectory
    • The company expects to maintain its projected 50% year-on-year growth rate.
    • Anticipate potential for exceeding linear growth projections due to changing market dynamics.
  • Component Sourcing
    • Most hardware components used are commercial off-the-shelf items.
    • Company’s primary value addition is in software development and AI integration.
    • Actively working on developing alternate designs to mitigate potential supply chain risks.
  • Goa Facility Update
    • New facility still in the blueprint stage.
    • Building designs are currently being developed.
    • Waiting for the government to construct access roads to the site.
    • Requesting the government to expedite the infrastructure work.
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