Shriram Pistons & Rings Ltd (NSE: SHRIPISTON) Q2 2025 Earnings Call dated Oct. 28, 2024
Corporate Participants:
Krishnakumar Srinivasan — Chief Executive Officer
Analysts:
Nandan Pradhan — Analyst
Priyam — Analyst
Pradyumna Choudhary — Analyst
Sahil Sanghvi — Analyst
Abhishek Shah — Analyst
Prateek Sen — Analyst
Neel Shah — Analyst
Amit — Individual Investor
Rajiv Bhansali — Analyst
Presentation:
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Shriram Pistons & Rings Limited Q2 and H1 FY ’25 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded.
Today from the management, we have with us Mr. Krishnakumar Srinivasan, Managing Director and Chief Executive Officer; Mr. Prem Rathi, Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Pankaj Gupta, Deputy Executive Director, Head Legal and Company Secretary.
Before we begin, let me remind you that this discussion may contain forward-looking statements that may involve risks and uncertainties, and other factors. It may be viewed in conjunction with the business risk that could cause future results, performance, or achievements to differ significantly from what is expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.
I now hand the conference over to Mr. Krishnakumar for his opening remarks, post which we will open the floor for an interactive Q&A session. Thank you. And over to you, sir.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan — Chief Executive Officer
Thank you, Siddhant. A very good evening everyone. On behalf of the company, I would like to express our sincere gratitude to each one of you joining our quarter two and H1 FY ’25 earnings call today. Our investor presentation and the press release have been uploaded on the company’s website and the stock exchanges, and we hope you have all had an opportunity to go through the same.
I am very happy to state that we have continued to deliver a strong overall consolidated performance, as our revenue recorded a 17% year-on-year quarterly growth with EBITDA and PAT growing by 15% and 11%, respectively. This growth is a testament to the robust demand for our high quality products and our relentless pursuit of operational excellence.
The first half of the financial year has also been very positive for us, marked by a growth in the top line as well as the bottom line. Here again, the year-on-year growth is around 17% and — on the total income and 11% on the — and 15% on the EBITDA.
We have also delivered a strong sequential performance with consolidated top line growing by 5% quarter-on-quarter, and EBITDA and PAT growing by 9% and 7%, respectively. We have been able to deliver growth in the business despite the challenging market conditions that the entire automotive industry has been facing for the past few quarters.
While the passenger vehicles and commercial vehicles segment faced pressure during this quarter, posting a lower single digit growth, the three and two-wheeler segments continue to grow amid strong rural demand as well as a steady replacement demand. The global automotive market has also reported muted numbers, driven by a significant downturn in EU production volumes. The continuing war situation in Ukraine and Israel is still making the situation quite non-conducive for the business growth in Europe. Due to the geopolitical situation, while we see pressures on our export sales, the company has really done well to identify newer markets and services, so as to offset the drop in the export volumes.
We are also actively pursuing a range of strategic initiatives aimed at broadening our product offerings to include technology-backed components suitable for internal combustion engine, alternate fuel situation — solutions, like, such as hybrid, hydrogen, compressed natural gas, the HCNG, LNG, flex fuels and biofuel systems. This approach is designed to ensure sustained long- term growth and to mitigate risks arising out of the changing business landscape.
As part of our diversification strategy, we have expanded into electric vehicles mobility solutions and the production of high precision injection molded parts, through our acquisition of SPR Takahata and SPR EMFi, which have both started making significant progress within their respective domains and sectors. The construction of our plant at Coimbatore for EMFi is going on in full swing, and I am very happy to state that the plant will be operational by April 2025.
Going ahead, we anticipate that our business segments, including aftermarket segments, will sustain a decent performance in the coming quarters. We also expect the industry demand to recoup, driven by the festival season currently underway. We intend to capitalize on our extensive industry expertise and our distinguished position as a leading manufacturer of our products in India. We will continue to remain focused on adeptly steering through the challenging market dynamics, while trying to deliver a sustained positive performance.
Now, let me quickly take you through the key financial highlights for the quarter, beginning with the consolidated performance:. Our company registered a year-on-year growth of 17.1%, culminating in a total income of INR9,069 million for the quarter, an increase from INR7,746 million reported in Q2 FY ’24. Our EBITDA witnessed a growth of 15.4% year-on-year reaching INR2,083 million in Q2 FY ’25. EBITDA margin stood at 23% levels, even with the changing market dynamics.
The profit after tax for the quarter saw an 11.4% year-on-year increase, amounting to INR1,259 million during Q2 FY ’25, compared to INR1,130 million in Q2 of FY ’24. We also delivered a strong sequential performance, with total income increasing by 5% quarter-on-quarter, EBITDA up by 8.6%, and PAT growing by 7.4%.
For the H1 period, in the consolidated performance, our total income grew by 17.2% to INR17,703 million from INR15,101 million in the same period of last year. EBITDA for the period was at INR4,001 million, up 15.7% year-on-year from INR3,458 million in H1 of FY ’24. Our EBITDA margin for H1 FY ’25 was at 22.6% and PAT was reported at INR2,430 million in H1 of FY ’25 as against INR2,145 million in H1 of FY ’24. This again has registered a 13.3% growth year-on-year.
Now coming to the standalone performance of SPRL, our company registered a year-on-year growth of 6.5%, culminating in a total income of INR8,230 million for the quarter, an increase from INR7,728 million reported in Q2 of FY ’24. The EBITDA witnessed a growth of 8% year-on-year, reaching INR1,958 million in Q2 FY ’25. EBITDA margin stood at 23.8%, slightly higher than 23.5% in the corresponding quarter of the previous year.
The profit after tax for the quarter saw an 8.7% year-on-year increase amounting to INR1,246 million during Q2 of FY ’25 as compared to INR1,147 million in Q2 of FY ’24. The PAT margin also stood at 15.1% as compared to 14.8% in the same quarter of the previous fiscal, a slight improvement of 31 basis points. Just to highlight, even with the tough market situation, our company has actually registered a very positive growth quarter-on-quarter with Q2 total income growing by 4.8%, EBITDA growing by 8.4%, and PAT growing by 9%.
For the H1 period, the total income grew by 6.9% to INR16,085 million from INR15,050 million in the same period of last year. EBITDA for the period was at INR3,765 million, up 8.4% year-on-year from INR3,472 million in H1 of FY ’24. EBITDA margin for H1 FY ’25 was at 23.4% as against 23.1% of H1 FY ’24. PAT was reported at INR2,390 million in H1 of FY ’25, as against INR2,181 million in H1 of FY ’24, registering again a growth of 9.6% year-on-year. PAT margin in H1 FY ’25 was at 14.9% as compared to 14.5% in H1 of FY ’24.
All this was on a backdrop of a very, very tough market situation and a very tough export market situation due to the current geopolitical situation in the export market. So, under these circumstances, overall our company has continued to register a very robust performance in all respects.
So, with this, I’ll end my initial talk and I request the moderator, Mr. Siddhant, to open the floor for questions. We’ll be happy to answer your questions.
Questions and Answers:
Operator
Thank you very much, sir. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from the line of Nandan Pradhan from Emkay Global Financial Services. Please go ahead.
Nandan Pradhan
Hello. Am I audible?
Operator
Hello, Nandan sir?
Nandan Pradhan
Am I audible?
Operator
You’re audible, but if you can use your handset, that would be better.
Nandan Pradhan
Give me a second. Is this better?
Operator
Yes, sir. Please go ahead.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah it’s better, Nandan.
Nandan Pradhan
So, sir, my question is around the second half expectations that we’ve put out in the press release. So from the channel checks we understand that the retails as on date have been flat for the PVs, for the two-wheelers as well. I mean, they’re doing relatively better, but not so great. So, going forward, there are a lot of comments around the OEMs also cutting down their production. So, I just wanted to understand how do you see that panning out for you as a company in the second half of the year? Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. So what you say is — Nandan, what you say is absolutely right. We do see our OEMs a little concerned on their overall numbers, but they are still projecting at least low-single-digit growth numbers. We have been also quite successful in improving, at least in some cases our — with our constant strategy of supporting the ICE segment — markets. We’ve been able to also get some new businesses, which is really helping us out.
And at the same time, we expect a slight improvement to happen in the export business, coming primarily out of the — into newer domains that we have been trying to develop the markets, which is going to help us in the second quarter. So, we still expect to do better than the market. We want to outgrow the market.
This time also, if you really see, while the markets have been roughly in the region of around — the weighted average growth is over 3%, 3.5%, the company has actually delivered a 7% improvement in its numbers, which is outgrowing the market by almost 100%. So, we want to continue to do that and that will be done by different penetration levels, number one. And number two, also pushing — doing a lot of outreach programs that we have for our aftermarket business.
Nandan Pradhan
Sir, if I may squeeze in another question.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Go ahead, Nandan.
Nandan Pradhan
Yeah. So, the Bajaj two-wheeler CNG, if I’m not wrong, we would be the suppliers, right, for the Bajaj Freedom 125?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. We are the single source for the…
Nandan Pradhan
You are the sole supplier, correct. So, I just wanted to understand how has the response been to that product particularly, because from what we see, the retails have not been picking up as much as probably the company wanted to. So, how has the outlook for that in 20 — for the second half, again?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No, the outlook is extremely good. In fact, you might have seen the commentary from Bajaj, where they are saying that their sales — the growth of sales in the Freedom 125 has been quite good, and they expect it to continue. So, our schedules have been quite good and I think the offtake has been quite impressive.
Nandan Pradhan
Okay sir. I think [Indecipherable]. I’ll fall back in the queue. Thank you and best of luck.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thanks.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Priyam [Phonetic] from IndValue Capital. Please go ahead.
Priyam
Thanks for the opportunity. So this is something related to the industry. Where we see passenger vehicles and commercial vehicles, they are — these two segments have been facing a bit of pressure, while we are seeing, on the other hand two-wheelers and three wheelers, we are doing good. So, what are your views on how the industry would be shaping up in the coming quarters?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, Priyam. See, basically, there’s a lot of crystal ball gazing that is going on around the overall situation now. But to tell you frankly, as you rightly said, the passenger vehicles and the commercial vehicles have low-single-digit numbers growth as far as what we see now in terms of volumes.
And with the current situation of the stocks and other things across the country, we don’t expect it to drastically change over the coming months. But the good part is that the two-wheelers are growing quite well, and we are present in all segments, as you already know. The tractors are doing well. And we are also seeing some increased numbers coming for commercial vehicles, the medium commercial vehicles and the small commercial vehicles are showing some improvement.
So, we are getting some improved numbers from our customers now, which is going to really help us to perform better in our coming quarters. And, at the same time, we are also focusing heavily to improve our sales in the aftermarket segment, which is also growing quite heavily for us. And we are also quite hopeful that some of the export markets, which had slowed down in the last two quarters, have actually exhausted most of their stocks and they are coming back to us for improved stocking. So, we are sure that that market is also going to help us in the coming quarters.
Priyam
So, on a — just to add that up, as you mentioned, the export one also. So, the quarterly run rate what we are doing is like 800 plus. So, do you feel that that run rate would be able to be maintained for the coming quarters?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. We are hoping to maintain that.
Priyam
Okay. Okay. And if I’m allowed, can I take one more question with regards to the industry again?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Fine. Priyam, go ahead. Go ahead.
Priyam
Yeah. Sure. Sure. So — and this is with regards to the current shift, what we are seeing in the passenger vehicles. So, earlier we were seeing electric EVs picking up, but now there is a concept of hybrid engines. So, just wanted to understand whether we are present in that segment also, hybrid, and we have made some investment towards that segment also?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Sure. See, hybrid, actually — what happens with hybrid is that, most of the customers downsize the engine a little bit and also add the electric motors. So, for us, since we are present in both the ICE as well as the electric motor industry, it is the best of both the worlds. So, for us, it’s like getting the business for hybrids also and for electric motors also.
And luckily for us, with major hybrid engines that has been manufactured today in the country, we are already present. And we are also talking and doing multiple validations with multiple customers. Unfortunately, I can’t give the names, but we are very well present in the hybrid engines all across the country and also globally. And I’m happy to state that even on the motors, we are getting very good traction. So, that’s how we are actually trying to grow the business.
Priyam
Okay. So just — and like, would it be a safer assumption that in the coming quarters or in the coming period, let’s not define quarters, in the coming period that we may see that the hybrid share also inching up?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
What share?
Priyam
The hybrid — the hybrid thing also…
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
The hybrid sales are already quite — we already have a good hybrid sales today.
Priyam
Okay. Okay. Okay. Got it, sir. Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Pradyumna Choudhary from JM Financial Family Office. Please go ahead.
Pradyumna Choudhary
Hi, sir. First of all, congratulations on a good set of numbers. So, my first question was, if we look at our performance versus industry, clearly we’ve really, really outperformed the industry, especially if we compare it to the passenger vehicle growth numbers, the industry was, I think, flattish during the quarter Y-o-Y. So, what would be the bigger factors leading to this outperformance?
Could it be due to growth in other segments, like the two-wheelers, or would it be some market share gains happening in passenger vehicles or maybe just that some of the OEMs we’re present in within the passenger vehicles have done better than the industry? Like if you can just give two, three bigger factors which could have led to this outperformance?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No, the — primarily, Pradyumna, the major factor for our outgrowth is coming out of the fact that we are present in multiple segments. So, we have performed quite well also in the two-wheeler segment, we have a fairly good presence there. And our aftermarket performance has also been quite good. And we have also been — some of the entries into different segments of business, which we had actually done in the previous year, where we had got the businesses, have actually given us slightly better volumes like snowmobile applications and compressor applications and others, which has actually given us improved results. So, a combination of multiple things has actually resulted in this outperformance.
Pradyumna Choudhary
And sir, so, this kind of — like our revenue grew by 17% against flattish volumes in EV [Phonetic]. If this was supposed to continue the volume trend in the industry, so how confident are we that we will still be able to — maybe a bit different is fine, but will we be able to sustain such kind of outperformance? Are we fairly confident we can continue on this trajectory?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No. See, what happens is, luckily on the consolidated basis, we have other businesses which are also performing quite well and they are into other segments of the product — the product lines are into different segments of the business — of market. Like for example, Takahata also supplies other than the automotive industry also outside. And we also have some business in the auto industry growing into different applications.
So, as a result, our push is to grow in those businesses and ensure that, on a consolidated basis, we are able to deliver better numbers. So, while I cannot directly say that we will grow by 17% next quarter also and the next half also, but we certainly see that we will try to perform and give a robust performance.
Pradyumna Choudhary
Understood. And sir, sorry, one question was on — I see that we do not really share the segment-wise revenue split in terms of two-wheeler contribution in terms of passenger vehicles and all. So, could you give a very broad level sense on the revenue segment-wise for us?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
It is more or less in line with the respective segment growth. You’ll see that the kind of figures that you see in two-wheeler growth, I think two-wheeler is growing by almost 15%, 16%. So that’s a representative number for us as far as the two-wheeler supplies are concerned. So, naturally, it is related to the respective segment growth.
Pradyumna Choudhary
No, the revenue split, sir, like not the growth number, more on the like the revenue contribution by different segments. Revenue contribution for us from two-wheelers, from passenger vehicles, from commercial vehicles.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Normally, we don’t give those numbers Pradyumna ji. So, you will have to bear with me that we are — our contribution numbers are fairly representative of our overall growth numbers.
Pradyumna Choudhary
All right. And last question from my side could be if — some sense on the realization for our product across maybe two-wheelers and four-wheelers; very, very rough sense?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
I couldn’t get your question properly. The line is not very clear.
Pradyumna Choudhary
Sir, just — can you hear me now?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, yeah.
Pradyumna Choudhary
Hello. Yeah, I’m just saying, if you can give a very rough sense on the kind of realization our product commands in the two-wheeler industry and in the four-wheeler industry, just some very rough range of realization. I’m just trying to model in the numbers.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
So, our product is quite — you can easily derive that by the overall — you know the suppliers who are there in the industry and the kind of turnover we do and the kind of turnover others do. You can get a rough idea of what is our share of the business that we have. So, I think we command a fairly good presence in almost all segments of the business, whether it is two-wheelers, whether it is passenger car, whether it is commercial vehicles, tractors, almost everywhere.
So, we also — luckily for us, we made a very concerted choice or a very clear choice of entering into different segments of the business which are very different to the automotive segment. So, which is like the compressor business, the snowmobile applications, the lawnmower applications, etc., etc., which has also given us a fairly good volume.
Pradyumna Choudhary
Well understood. Thank you all, and all the best.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thank you, Pradyumna ji.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Sahil Rohit Sanghvi from Monarch Networth Capital. Please go ahead.
Sahil Sanghvi
Yeah, hi. Good evening, sir. Am I audible?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, we can hear you, Sahil ji.
Sahil Sanghvi
Yeah. Congratulations, sir, on the outperformance and also festive greetings, Happy Diwali. Just wanted to understand, sir, would you be able to give us the revenue split which you’ve given on slide number 10 for this quarter? Like in terms of aftermarket exports, OEMs, non-automotive application?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. So, normally, we don’t give those breakups because it’s very business sensitive information and it can really affect us in the coming months. So, we have to be very careful, so we are unable to give that number.
Sahil Sanghvi
Okay. Okay. But any kind of growth you can give on the aftermarket or exports front or that also you can’t?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No, we can’t, because I can only say that our presence in the aftermarket is — we have been able to cover the entire country, but still there’s a huge possibility to grow the business. So, it’s all about how we can penetrate and reach every city and every small place that sells the products into the aftermarket. So, we have to continue to outreach and grow our reach across the country, and we have been continuously doing that.
Sahil Sanghvi
Right, sir. And I think you have commented on the export market that the demand appears weak on one of the slides. So, if you can just throw a bit more light over there, would that impact our, growth or revenue numbers?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No. As I said, the company is well positioned to offset some of the losses that it has in one segment by outperforming in the other segment. So, we have continuously, always tried to deliver that way. And as you can see, while the last two quarters also, the export has been badly affected primarily because of the geopolitical situation, we have actually — the teams have actually done well in the other segments and have been able to recover a good amount of sales and outgrow the business.
Sahil Sanghvi
Thanks, sir. Understood, sir.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah.
Sahil Sanghvi
Thank you, sir. Congratulations. All the best, sir.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thanks a lot, Sahil.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Abhishek Shah from Ambit Capital. Please go ahead.
Abhishek Shah
Good evening, sir. Thank you for taking my question. So I had a couple of questions. Firstly, on the margin, so as I can see, standalone, our margins seem to have improved. However, on a consol basis, I think we’ve seen a slight margin contraction. So, any insight or any color that you can give on that? And my second question is on the debt. So, we do still carry a reasonable amount of debt on the balance sheet, and we also have, I think, a larger cash balance. So, any plans on repayment or how are you thinking about that? Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Abhishek ji, basically, as far as margin is concerned, I think the good part is don’t compare the 0.3%, 0.5% difference. But on the standalone basis, as well as a consolidated basis, we are amongst the top performing companies in the country with regards in the auto component industry, with regards to the overall — our EBITDA margins. So, even on a consolidated basis, when you — any company, when it does a consolidation of multiple companies across segments, you will see some small variations in the — this thing. Even last year, if you had compared, you’d see that the variation was there in the consolidated basis, but it is all at the fairly good level of EBITDA margins on a consolidated basis across the country. So, I think we are only improving there, and there is no reason to be very concerned, number one.
Number two, as far as your second question is concerned, related to the loan, as you realize, it is important for us to ensure that we make the best use case of all the banking credits and other things that we get from the banks, and we try to maintain that. And that is how you’ll see that year-end figure of March ’24 to now also, there is hardly any change, a small addition is there.
There is more based on the current situation. So we don’t — we are not too concerned about the overall debt. Our debt-to-equity ratio remains almost the same level of 0.17. So, it’s extremely — we want to ensure that we are not missing out on any opportunity of getting debt at the right interest rates. Does that answer your question?
Abhishek Shah
Sure. Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Prateek Sen from Dexter Capital Advisors Private Limited. Please go ahead.
Prateek Sen
Yeah, thank you for the opportunity. Sir, can you provide me insights into the current demand trajectory and market size for EV motors and controller systems, and what growth rate are you expecting in coming years from this segment, that is EMFi?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, that’s again a very interesting question. As you know, when you hear that the hybrids are going up, and the — overall your numbers in ICE vehicles will continue to grow for some time. Obviously, the other affected party is going to be the EV segment. But, luckily for us, it’s again — as you know, it’s a sunrise industry and we do see the overall demand continuing to grow continuously in more than big double-digit numbers, primarily because the base is small.
Now, if you really analyze, the country will demand, let’s only talk about two-wheelers, the country will require almost close to, let’s say 20 million — manufacturing 20 million two-wheelers, of which let’s say 10 million vehicles will become electrified over a period of next maybe seven, eight years — 10 years’ time, and 10 million motors will be required.
The whole country today manufactures not even more than 1 million motors. So, there is a 10 times demand that is standing in front of us. So we have to continue to grow the electric motor industry which will continue to grow on a low base. So, we see lot of opportunities for us to grow in this segment. We are doing all the right investments to be ready. As you know that we are putting in a lot of investment in the Coimbatore factory. We have put up a new — brand new facility there. We have very sophisticated lines. We have test centers which does multiple testing including efficiency of the motors right up to and all the toxic curves. So, it is a very good investment that we are doing for the future of that business that will grow — it has to grow. There is no other way. It can only go northwards rather than southwards.
Prateek Sen
Okay, sir. And are we initially focusing more on two-wheeler and three-wheelers?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, the whole industry is focusing on that area. So, we naturally will focus there only.
Prateek Sen
Yeah, okay, understood. Thanks. I’ll get back in the queue.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question is from the line of Neel from Valuequest Advisors. Please go ahead.
Neel Shah
Yeah, I have questions on both the subsidiaries that we have. So, firstly, on the motor side, so the new plant that we’re setting up, what kind of capacities can we expect? So what capacities we have now, what is the utilization, what is the expansion plan, and do we have any orders from four wheeler players? And just additionally on the same subsidiary, since we are seeing a lot of players enter this category of two-wheeler motors, three-wheeler motors, what would be our right to win in this segment?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
See, let me explain this. It is very important for us to understand this two-wheeler business. The two-wheeler market is going to be quite huge, as I explained just now. And there is going to be very — the players who will play in this segment are the players who will be able to produce quality products. Now, we have focused on ensuring that we are able to really deliver the right results to all our customers.
Now if you really see, because of the push by the PM Schemes, including the subsidies, it has become necessary for people to ensure that they get all the ICAT approvals, to be able to deliver the right localized — and ensure that the localization content and everything gets ratified to be able to get the subsidies for the customers, for the end customers. Otherwise, you don’t get subsidies.
So, because of all this, there are a number of players — there are — you rightly said the number of players are there, but they are all operating on a very — not on an organized segment, rather they are operating on the unorganized segment. And on the organized segment you really see very few numbers now because of these guys spilling over, primarily because they are just trying to import most of the products from other countries and just assemble and give it here, which is not going to work with the kind of content requirements that the government has laid out.
As a result, now it has become necessary that only those who have actually done good amount of localization can survive. And we have always focused on localization. So, luckily for us, we are over 90% localized. So, we don’t see any reason why we should not be actually winning more businesses and improving our share of business in this segment.
So, we are continuing to do that almost every day we are doing this. And I think you will see all those numbers improving as the overall market starts picking up for the EV segment. And I think it’s going to be very soon.
Neel Shah
Right, got it. So, what would be our rough capacity that we have, annual basis and utilization that we’re doing right now?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. We don’t give these numbers Neel. I’m very sorry. We don’t want to give these numbers because obviously this is all being tracked by competition. And you rightly said, that it is a very competitive field.
Neel Shah
Okay, understood. So, the new capacity that we’re setting up would increase our capacity by what percentage? Can you give me that number?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Upwards by 100%.
Neel Shah
100%? Okay. Got it. Similarly, in the second subsidiary, Takahata, the kind of space that we are in is kind of a unique space, very few players I have at least witnessed in this space. So, if you can just roughly tell me what kind of size this is domestically, in terms of industry size, how many players and what is the kind of size we think we can build in this category over the next, let’s say two to three years?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
It’s a good question again, the precision injection molding market is a very, very niche market. But when I say niche market, it doesn’t mean it’s not a big market. It is a niche, big market. So, the overall market size, as we have done, whatever internal study we have done, is over — anywhere between INR3,000 crores to INR4,000 crores. And with all the businesses we are doing, we are hardly — you can easily make out anywhere between 7% to 10% is the kind of supplies that we do. And there is a huge market available in front of us to grow that business.
So, we have already bought another piece of land just next to our current existing plant. And we are planning to grow that business also and continuously invest in the right areas to be able to cater to those new businesses that are coming up. So, we see an excellent possibility there.
Neel Shah
Okay, understood. And the kind of cash that we have, we were going to look for M&A’s mostly in the non-ICE auto category. So, any development on that, any area that we have locked in on, any update you can give us on that?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, Neel, we are continuously working on it. So you will hear about it very soon. So, hopefully we should continue — our appetite is quite good and we are also in a good position to invest. So, I think, you will hear about it very soon.
Neel Shah
Okay, thank you and all the best.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Next is a follow-up question from the line of Nandan Pradhan from Emkay Global Financial Services. Please go ahead.
Nandan Pradhan
Hello?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, Nandan ji.
Nandan Pradhan
Hello?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, Nandan ji, please go ahead. We can hear you.
Operator
No. So I– it seems that Mr. Nandan’s line is disconnected. Can we move on to the next question? Yeah, so the next question is from line of Amit, who’s an individual investor. Please go ahead.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, go ahead. Mr. Amit.
Amit
Hi, I just had a specific question on the services proportion of your revenue. Just wanted to understand, are there any specific targets where you want to move from let’s say 26% or 27% currently to maybe, mid 30%; one. And the second follow-up there would be, if you can help us understand what is the profitability of the service business versus the original equipment business. That will be helpful. Any directional aspect would definitely be helpful. Thanks.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Unfortunately, number one, it is very difficult for me to give any breakup of our margins between segments, because number one, as I rightly told you, it’s very sensitive information and we have to track it very, very closely. And it’s kept under very close tracking by the management team here in the company. But however, our growth in the aftermarket has all been good.
Over the last five years, we have more than doubled our business. And I think I did say in the beginning of the call to some other question, where I said that all this is dependent upon how we are able to extend our reach across the country. We are trying multiple means to do that, and I think it requires also setting up multiple levels of service requirements in terms of the reach, in terms of service levels, in terms of the various other requirements of this segment, which is — which will define how we are able to service it. And we have done multiple things to be able to improve our reach and the levels of sales.
Amit
Thank you. Thank you for that additional information. Maybe just a small [Technical Issues] if you can just help us with any form of directional aspects in terms of touch points that you would have for the services business, which would kind of help us understand what kind of growth could be looked into. So, any small snippets would be kind of helpful. Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Well, I can only tell you that, we have over 1,400 touch points across the country, which is helping us to now grow this segment. And it is extremely important for us to be well interconnected with each one of them. And it’s a challenge as well as an opportunity.
Amit
Thank you. I think that’s really helpful. Again, Happy Diwali to all the management team. Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you, Amit ji. Thank you.
Operator
[Operator Instructions] Our next follow-up is from the line of Nandan Pradhan from Emkay Global Financial Services. Please go ahead.
Nandan Pradhan
Thank you for taking my question again. So, I just had a couple of questions, if I could squeeze in, one would be the capex for the current year and if you could just broadly highlight the areas that we’re going to invest in.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
So, I think Nandan ji, I gave the input that we are trying to grow all segments of the business. So, while we invest into the newer segments like the EV segment and others, we also continue to invest in our current existing business to ensure that we are able to cater to the demand and the growth that we see in this segment in the coming years. So, multiple levels of capex are being done in all the segments of our business, whether it is piston, rings or whether it is engine valves.
We are continuously, for example, just recently we have inaugurated our, as you know, the last March, we inaugurated our brand new plant in Pithampur, manufacturing of engine valves and also multiple other products. So, we are continuing to invest in these areas, and we will continue to do so till the time we see a good possibility of business and a good return on our investments.
Nandan Pradhan
Okay. And sir, secondly, I think we had highlighted that we are also looking at non-Japanese customers for Takahata. So, any breakthrough on that side in the current quarter?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Yeah. We already have some good breakthroughs and we have already — in fact, some cases we have even started supplies. I unfortunately, I cannot give the names at this stage, but we have already started that.
Nandan Pradhan
Okay, sir. And sir, lastly, would be on the EMFi side, any new order wins that you would like to call out?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Multiple orders we have won, so — but I can’t give the names at this stage.
Nandan Pradhan
Okay, sir. And I mean, how would the execution pan out for these orders, if you could give a broad idea?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
The whole — the EV business is also equally tough in the sense that we have to get all the multiple validations and everything done. Now the requirement requires ICAT approvals and others. So, we are already in the process of getting all those approvals and we are in very good shape. And thanks to our high localization content, it is really helping us.
Nandan Pradhan
Okay, sir. I think that answers my questions. Thank you so much. Good luck.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Nandan.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question is from line of Rajeev Bhansali from Boring AMC. Please go ahead.
Rajiv Bhansali
Good evening, sir. So, sir, since you mentioned about the EV, we are getting into EV. So, what parts particularly we are looking into?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
What, I didn’t…
Rajiv Bhansali
We mentioned about investing in EV components, right?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah.
Rajiv Bhansali
So, what are the particular parts we are looking into EV like?
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
No, as we — as you know that we make motors as well as controllers.
Rajiv Bhansali
Yeah.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
We are the only company giving motors and controllers together. We size it together, we’re also giving controllers separately, we also give motors separately. So we have multiple business models to be able to service this market. And as far as our focus area is concerned, we are investing in all the areas, primarily into motors controllers.
Rajiv Bhansali
Okay, sir. Thank you.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah, thank you.
Operator
Thank you. As there are no further questions, I would now like to hand the conference over to Mr. Krishnakumar for closing comments.
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Yeah. Thank you, Siddhant. We extend our deepest gratitude to all our participants today for attending today’s earnings call. Your participation made the discussion really very engaging. We remain dedicated in our commitment to our strategic business objectives and will continue to strive for sustained, positive outcomes.
For any further questions or information, please reach out to our Investor Relations team at Ernst & Young. On behalf of the company, we thank you once again, and highly appreciate your time and involvement. It was really very good discussions today. Take care and goodbye. And I take this opportunity of wishing each one of you a very, very Happy Diwali and a great year ahead. Thank you.
Operator
[Operator Instructions]
Krishnakumar Srinivasan
Thank you. Yeah, thank you. Bye-bye.