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Premier Explosives Limited (PREMEXPLN) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Premier Explosives Limited (NSE: PREMEXPLN) Q3 2026 Earnings Call dated Feb. 20, 2026

Corporate Participants:

Akhilesh GandhiInvestor Relations, Stellar IR Advisors Private Limited

T.V. ChowdaryManaging Director

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay KumarChief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Niraj MansingkaAnalyst

Varun JainAnalyst

Hitanshu BhatiaAnalyst

Paras KulkarniAnalyst

Sucrit PatilAnalyst

S.C. GuptaIndividual Investor

Deepak KarwaIndividual Investor

Presentation:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to the Q3 FY ’26 Conference Call hosted by Premier Explosives Limited. [Operator Instructions]

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Akhilesh Gandhi from Stellar IR. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Akhilesh GandhiInvestor Relations, Stellar IR Advisors Private Limited

On behalf of Stellar Investor Relations, welcome you all to the Premier Explosives Quarter Three and Nine-Month FY ’26 Earnings Conference Call. We shall be sharing the key operating and financial highlights for the quarter three and nine months ended on 31st December 2025. Today, we have with us the senior management team of Premier Explosives Limited, Mr. T.V. Chowdary sir. He is the Managing Director. And with him, we also have Mr. Vijay Kumar. He is the Chief Financial Officer.

Before we begin, I would like to state that this call may contain some of the forward-looking statements, which are completely based upon the company’s beliefs, opinions and expectations as of today. The statements made in today’s call are not a guarantee of future performance and also involve unforeseen risks and uncertainties. The company also undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statement to reflect developments that occur after the statement is made. Documents relating to the company’s financial performance, including the investor presentation have already been uploaded on the stock exchange.

I now invite Mr. T.V. sir to share his initial remarks on the company’s performance for the third quarter and nine months ended on the 31st of December 2025. Thank you, and over to you.

T.V. ChowdaryManaging Director

Thank you, Mr. Gandhi. Good morning, everyone. I welcome you — are you able to hear me?

Operator

Yes, we can hear you, sir.

T.V. ChowdaryManaging Director

I welcome you to the earnings conference call of Premier Explosives for the third quarter and nine months ended December 31, 2025. Thank you for joining us. I trust you have reviewed our Q3 and nine months FY ’26 results, along with the investor presentation available on the stock exchanges and on our website.

Our performance during the quarter reflects disciplined execution across our defense and explosives segments despite a dynamic operating environment. While certain projects progressed in a phased manner during the year, our manufacturing operations remained stable and efficient with strong adherence to quality, safety and delivery commitments. The year-on-year moderation is primarily due to the elevated base in the corresponding period last year, which included higher dispatches of chaffs and flares. Execution timing also influenced comparability. Importantly, the underlying demand environment and operational momentum remain strong, supported by a healthy order book and sustained opportunities across domestic as well as export markets.

Our outstanding order book stands at INR1,294 crores, representing 3.1 times of financial year ’25 revenue and providing strong medium-term visibility. During the quarter, consistent execution strengthened our positioning and enabled us to secure larger and strategically significant contracts from the Ministry of Defense, domestic defense players and international customers.

In October, we secured a major order worth INR429 crores from the Ministry of Defense, Government of India for the supply of chaffs and flares to the Indian Air Force. This reinforces our leadership in countermeasure systems and reflects continued confidence in our technological capabilities. We also strengthened our order inflow during quarter three FY ’26 through contracts from international entities for defense products and commercial explosives, along with additional countermeasure orders from the Ministry of Defense. These projects are progressing across various stages of execution and are expected to support revenue momentum in the coming quarters.

Premier occupies a unique strategic position as the only Indian company qualified to manufacture countermeasures and as a key exporter of fully assembled rocket motors. Our portfolio of warheads, mines and ammunition further strengthens our role in advancing India’s indigenization objectives.

With continued policy emphasis on domestic defense manufacturing and import substitution, structural growth outlook remains strong. Our focus is clear. We will drive execution excellence, deepen technological capability, scale capacity prudently and expand our global presence. We remain confident in our growth trajectory and committed to delivering sustainable value of all stakeholders.

Thank you. Now, I request Mr. Vijay Kumar, our CFO, to share the financial performance. Good morning, everyone. The results presentation for the quarter ended December 31, 2025, has been uploaded on the stock exchanges and on the company’s website. I believe you may have gone through the same. The revenue from operations for Q3 FY ’26 stands at INR81.4 crores. Our operating profit for Q3 FY ’26 stands at INR11.6 crores. The operating margin for the quarter stands at 14.3%. We reported a net profit of INR6 crores. The PAT margin for the quarter stands at 7.4%. The revenue from operations for nine months FY ’26 stands at INR299.1 crores. Our operating profit for nine months FY ’26 stands at INR39.1 crores. The operating margin for the quarter stands at 13.1%. We reported a net profit of INR39.2 crores. The PAT margin for the quarter stands at 13.1%. The decline is primarily attributable to the high base effect arising from the elevated chaffs and flares dispatches in the corresponding period last year with the execution timing affecting year-on-year comparability. Now, coming to the order book, the company’s current order book stands at INR1,294.6 crores, out of which the defense segment order is majority of INR1,191 crores, which is equal to 92% of the total order book. Explosive segment stands at INR51.8 crores, which is equal to 4% of the total order book and service segment, which is operation and maintenance service segment stands at INR51.8 crores, which is also equal to 4% of the total order book. The order book shows a solid and strong growth towards the coming years. We are very much confident that with our continued execution run rate in the forthcoming quarters will be continuing with the growth trajectory. With this, we’ll now open the floor for questions and answers. Thank you.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Niraj Mansingka from White Pine Investment Management. Please go ahead.

Niraj Mansingka

Thank you for the opportunity. I have only one question. Sir, if you see your order book is INR1,191 crores versus last quarter in September quarter, INR1,167 crores. It implies an increase of INR85 crores in net orders after adjusting for the revenues because revenues reported for the defense is only INR61 crores. But when you reported in the press releases, we reported an inflow of INR519 crores on chaffs and flares, the three orders we have reported till November. So what is the discrepancy? Like has the orders of — so the discrepancy is almost — you should have added INR519 crores, but it seems that you have added INR85 crores only. So has the — some orders been canceled to the extent of INR400-plus crores?

T.V. Chowdary

No, that INR430 crores has come in October. So in the last call, we have added that also and gave the total number.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. So you — but that was a quarterly presentation. So you added that in the last quarter you gave that….

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, because that time — by the time we got the order, yes, as on that date.

Niraj Mansingka

So whatever orders right now you are putting in the presentation, it is as on 15th February also. Is it right? Or is it as on December…

T.V. Chowdary

As on date. Yes, as on date.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. Got it. Yes. Thank you. I’ll come back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Varun Jain from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.

Varun Jain

Yes. Hi. Good morning, sir. So I have a couple of questions. So first is, sir, what is the status of this explosive RDX, HMX expansion at Katepally? So will it be completed by the end of this financial year? And do we expect like INR100 crores to INR200 crores extra revenue from that in FY ’27?

T.V. Chowdary

No, the civil construction and works and all those are completed. The equipment installation and direction is going on. So we expect this to complete and then come into production in the first quarter of next financial year.

Varun Jain

And sir, what will be the revenue from this expansion in FY ’27?

T.V. Chowdary

That being the initial few quarters, it will be on lower side because we’ll be slowly operating it. So we are expecting almost in the next financial year, a contribution of around — the turnover contribution will come to around INR150 crores to INR200 crores in the next financial year.

Varun Jain

Okay. And sir, of this chaffs and flares order, which we received in October, so sir, will be — how much of that order contribution will come in FY ’27?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, almost 50% of that order has to be executed in one year time. And we have to complete it by next year.

Varun Jain

So sir, in that case, that INR430 crores from that and INR150 crores from that. So only these two orders will give you close to INR550 crores, INR600 crores of revenue in FY ’27, if I’m understanding it correctly?

T.V. Chowdary

We’ll be doing some in the current financial year and the part will go to the next financial year. It’s not the entire order will go to next financial year.

Varun Jain

Okay. And sir, on this year FY ’26, we revised our guidance INR550 crores…

T.V. Chowdary

We are not able to hear you.

Operator

I’m sorry, sir, but your voice is breaking.

Varun Jain

INR500 crores to INR550 crores for FY ’26. Is that number still possible?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. Now the year is coming to closer to end, and we have stocks, which need to be inspected and delivered to MoD. So if the inspections are completed and then delivery is completed, yes. If it gets into, then it will go to the next quarter.

Varun Jain

Okay, sir. Okay. I’ll come back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. Next question comes from the line of Hitanshu Bhatia from Sukrit Investment Private Limited. Please go ahead.

Hitanshu Bhatia

Hello, sir. Thank you for taking my question. My question was that in our second last page of our presentation, we have mentioned anti-personnel and anti-armored vehicle mines as a product offering. So could you please throw some light on it?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. We already — we got a supply order and then we are executing that. We’ve already done almost 50% of it. The balance now it is in the deliveries and then inspections.

Hitanshu Bhatia

So sir, is it related to Project Tandav [Phonetic]? Because as per report, Solar Industries is developing an anti-tank influence mine. So sir, how are we lining up against it, sir?

T.V. Chowdary

So we are working with DRDO technology, anti-tank intelligent mine. DRDO has transferred as technology. We are on that. But that product, we are yet to get a supply order ToT is completed, we are waiting for the supply order from Army.

Hitanshu Bhatia

Okay. Sir, because the RFP is out for project kind or so, that brings up this question, so.

T.V. Chowdary

No, we are not doing Tandav. It’s their own.

Hitanshu Bhatia

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Paras Kulkarni from Ignite Capital. Please go ahead.

Paras Kulkarni

Yes. Sir, my first question pertains to the order inflows. In second quarter conference, we had guided that we would be expecting additional INR300 crores order inflow for the next — for the remaining part of this year. However, when I look at it on a run rate basis, we don’t seem to be in Q3, not even half of that guidance is being met. So could you highlight what led to the lower order booking in Q3?

T.V. Chowdary

The order book is — I couldn’t understand on what basis you said the lowering of the order book. As on date, the order book is INR1,290 crores.

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

So we got a new order of INR430 crores in October.

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. As we keep on executing commercial, it comes down and as the new orders get added, it goes up. So we are able to maintain a healthy order book.

Paras Kulkarni

No, we are actually operating at less than 1 bill to book as per my understanding.

T.V. Chowdary

It is INR1,294 crores, means it is two years order book.

Paras Kulkarni

Okay. Secondly, on the gross margin front, we have had a sequential decline of almost 100, 150 bps. So can you throw some light on that as to why it has happened? And was it on account of some change in revenue mix or input in raw material prices?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Earlier, we had this MoD order where we had LDs and all these things because of that, that was on the lower side. Otherwise, we are targeting 15% to 20% EBITDA.

Paras Kulkarni

Okay. Got it. And lastly, on the revenue front, see, to achieve the yearly guidance, we need to almost do three times of — three times to four times of what we did in Q3 the revenue for Q4. So do we expect any change in guidance given that the orders which you mentioned are still not getting executed or are not getting inspected. So is there any definitive time line as to the orders getting inspected from the government and getting executed? Because what I understand is your peers have actually had a strong quarter in the defense segment. So could you throw some light on that?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. See, the third quarter, whatever deliveries have to be made, it has already started and from the stocks. See, this defense MoD process is any product before you dispatch, you have to offer for pre-dispatch inspection. So we have already submitted to them for connecting pre-dispatch inspection. And as per the team arrival and then inspection, it depends. If we can deliver them before 31st of March, they appear in this quarter, otherwise, they will go to the next quarter. So we are trying our best to get them forward rather than pushing them.

Paras Kulkarni

Okay, got it. I’ll join back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Sucrit Patil from Eyesight Fintrade Private Limited.

Sucrit Patil

I have two forward-looking questions. My first question is, as Premier Explosives expand into the defense and aerospace, what steps will you take over the next one to two years or in the short term one to two quarters to mitigate risk from defense procurement delays and ensure steady execution in long-cycle contracts? That’s my first question. I’ll ask my second question after.

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. This is — see, as we explained earlier also, we are building our — we have a bouquet of products, and we are increasing the bouquet, adding more products like we added a few years back, if you remember, we were — our concentration was producing propellants and then rocket motors for Indian agencies and DRDO. Today, we are already exporting rocket motors and we are designing and all those things. Next step we added is the countermeasures. Countermeasures, we are the Number 1 in the country. We are the only source of countermeasures. Whatever orders are, we are executing from that. The third one is the mines. We have started delivering in this financial year, the mines, landmines and anti-personnel mines, we are and the armored vehicle mines and all those, we are yet to start delivering. Anti-personnel mines, we are already delivering. Then the next step comes is the ammunition. Ammunition, yes, we have conducted trials with [Indecipherable] technology and all those. Again, it is in the process of RFPs. Once we get into, we’ll be entering the complete medium-caliber ammunition line of business. So we are going on adding within the defense and then aerospace industry. There are multiple products. We are going on adding one after the other. And we are also expanding our capacity of producing tactical rocket motors by adding another facility.

Sucrit Patil

Thank you. My second question to Mr. Kumar is, looking ahead, how will you design Premier’s financial discipline to handle raw material cost volatility and working capital tied to defense contracts while still protecting margins and delivering a predictable shareholder return?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

We have lines of credit from all the banks. So we do not foresee any working capital issue. So depending on the product and project, we plan working capital accordingly. And also, the margins are also protected when we accept the order.

T.V. Chowdary

And we — every export order we execute or we take, we are including a price escalation clause from year-on-year so that the price increase in the raw materials is protected.

Sucrit Patil

Thank you and best wishes.

T.V. Chowdary

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of S.C. Gupta [Phonetic], an individual investor. Please go ahead.

S.C. Gupta

I would like to know what is the breakup of exports and domestic sales in the current quarter and nine months?

T.V. Chowdary

Nine months export is about INR40 crores compared to total year exports of about INR78 crores.

S.C. Gupta

And current quarter?

T.V. Chowdary

Current quarter, INR40 crores.

S.C. Gupta

INR40 crores.

T.V. Chowdary

Previous quarter, third, December quarter.

S.C. Gupta

And what is the breakup of export and domestic orders as on date?

T.V. Chowdary

Export is about INR450 crores, balance is domestic.

S.C. Gupta

Balance is domestic. See, all the export orders which you have given on BSE normally mentioned supply period of 12 months, maximum 12 months.

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. 12 to 24 months, some of them.

S.C. Gupta

Okay. Because what I observed is most of them are within 12 months. So in that case, if you have to deliver this in 12 months, so current year, we will be exporting at least INR400 crores next year, that is ’26, ’27?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, you have to note one thing. All those exports need export licenses for this. Yes. So the date — the clock starts from the day of receiving the export license.

S.C. Gupta

Okay. It is not from the date of order. It is from the date of receiving the export license.

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, because they all know, we tell them in the beginning itself. We can supply only once we get the export license, which takes anything between three to five months.

S.C. Gupta

Okay. May I know as on today, how much export license we have to export?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

They are in different stages. Maybe in the next call, we can update.

S.C. Gupta

Okay. So normally, can we expect that this INR450 crores will be executed maximum within 1.5 years or two years?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Yes, that assumption you can take.

S.C. Gupta

That assumptions maybe okay. And secondly, with respect to the turnover, we started the year guidance of INR600 crores. Now then we have come to guidance of INR500 crores to INR550 crores in the last quarter. And now, also this INR500 crores to INR550 crores also looks a little bit shaky depending upon the inspections. But does this inspection delays somewhere end, what I’m trying to say that previous inspection gets delayed and it transformed to next quarter. So it becomes a normal lead time in delivering the order. So considering that, are we sure that this year, we will be able to achieve at least around INR550 crores?

T.V. Chowdary

We are targeting INR500 crores because you know that we had accident in the beginning of the year because of which our large rocket motors facility got affected. So that time it will be told around INR20 crores to INR30 crores business will be affected at that time. Yes. And also, you know the geopolitical conditions because of that, some of the inputs which you are importing got delayed. So these have affected our targets and that’s what happened. So we are hoping that right now, current year or coming year, the problems are not foreseen. So we are hoping that we’ll cover up that.

S.C. Gupta

We will achieve that. And secondly, are we expecting any LD on this?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, the LD clauses are there. But when we submit detail all the reasons for this, they are considering, where in many cases, they have considered favor of LD. So any such things also there, we are approaching them.

S.C. Gupta

And one final question. Can we assume that next year, we can achieve a turnover of INR700 crores to INR800 crores because of these delays, whichever is postponed in the current year?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. Because of our experience in the current year, we are a little cautious in taking that run. We are expecting INR500 crores to INR600 crores turnover next year.

S.C. Gupta

That is a conservative estimate as on date based on the…

T.V. Chowdary

Yes.

S.C. Gupta

Thank you. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Niraj Mansingka, a follow-up question, from White Pine Investment Management. Please go ahead.

Niraj Mansingka

I wanted to know we are present in the QRSAM and sir, what is the general percentage share of QRSAM orders that we should receive?

T.V. Chowdary

The QRSAM order is yet to be received. We are also hearing about QRSAM. But right now, we have no order on QRSAM. If any order comes, we are the supplier. The propellant is to be supplied by only Premier.

Niraj Mansingka

So, that I understand, sir, whatever is the percentage the main suppliers, how much percentage of that would you be getting generally on a range, if you can give us?

T.V. Chowdary

I told you in earlier calls also, it is somewhere around 10% to 15% is the percentage contribution of propellants by us and other explosives. It varies but from motors to motors.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. And are we supplying full rocket motors or only the propellant for QRSAM?

T.V. Chowdary

Only propellant casting.

Niraj Mansingka

Only the propellant, not the full motors?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, not full motors. It’s being assembled by BDL. BDL places order on us for propellant. We supply them the propellant cast, then they do the full motor assembly and integration.

Niraj Mansingka

Got it, sir. So that’s one. So second question is on the countermeasure orders that we received earlier, which is in 2023, July. So entire has been — how much is left on that part in terms of unexecuted portion?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Around INR110 crores is left over.

Niraj Mansingka

Will get the order…

T.V. Chowdary

We have completed the shaftchaffs part of it. So some quantity of link is left over. That is around INR120 crores — INR112 crores, which we are hoping that in the first quarter, we’ll complete that.

Niraj Mansingka

The order which is yet to be checked and booked on revenues, are they included in that INR110 crores includes that or exclude that?

T.V. Chowdary

No, INR110 crores is whatever we have delivered, what is in our magazines and stocks are not in that, that is additional, which we are thinking that in the next month or in the first quarter of the next year, we’ll be able to exit it.

Niraj Mansingka

And sir, how much of the stock, which is yet to be pending to be verified by the defense side?

T.V. Chowdary

Around INR30 crores worth material is with us as on date. And some more is on the pipeline, yes.

Niraj Mansingka

So sir, is it right that then the countermeasure revenues to be booked on the earlier order is INR140 crores. INR110 crores is yet to be executed and…

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

As on date, outstanding is about INR110 crores — INR112 crores.

Niraj Mansingka

That includes the stock?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Everything. All inclusive, yes.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. Got it, sir. So that’s one. And sir, on the LD numbers of countermeasures, you said that in the past that the reversal of margins can come after only you supply the entire order. So what is the status of that?

T.V. Chowdary

Like we told now, only the flare part, INR30 crores — sorry, around INR60 crores of flare part is to be supplied. And counter is — chaffs, we have already approached MoD for considering error of LD. And flares, we will approach once we complete this.

Niraj Mansingka

So you have approached for the chaffs, but yet the acquisition is yet to be received. Is it the right…

T.V. Chowdary

Government, it has to go from various levels, so it will take some time.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. Got it. Third, can you tell something about the RFP on the mine side?

T.V. Chowdary

RFP on mines. We have orders in our hand. We are supplying — executing the order. It’s no more in RFP stage. Other mines, yes, the anti-armored vehicle intelligent mine, which are — they are in the — we are waiting for the RFP to come.

Niraj Mansingka

How large, sir, they can be the value?

T.V. Chowdary

Mines, we have to supply around INR30 crores of mines. Future, you are asking?

Niraj Mansingka

No, I’m asking of the upcoming mines that are going to upcome, how much — how large can those mine RFP recovery?

T.V. Chowdary

It is going to be large from our estimate, but I can’t tell you the figures, because the mines are needed by Army all along our border when there are tensions, they have to plant. So right now, the demand will remain continuously for the anti-personnel and also for anti-armored vehicle.

Niraj Mansingka

Okay. Great. Thank you. I’ll come back.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Varun Jain from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.

Varun Jain

Just a follow-up. Sir, what is your capex guidance for FY ’27 next year and ’28?

T.V. Chowdary

The next financial year?

Varun Jain

Next year and next to next year?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, around INR60 crores is the capex for Katepally and PDK together.

Varun Jain

And sir, any update on the Odisha capex since we have a Board permission to raise funds, what is the status there?

T.V. Chowdary

Odisha land is still not finalized because we happen to go and then see and look for the land. So it’s more of hilly and forest and all those. In the meantime, the Andhra government has cleared our application for land in Andhra. So that appears to be more closer than Odisha. So that also will add to our capex plan once the land is allotted to us.

Varun Jain

And so, sir, this INR60 crores, which you said for FY ’27, what is the breakup of that?

T.V. Chowdary

We have expansion planned in Katepally plant and also at PDK plant, additional capacity of propellant manufacturing and casting and also integration of rocket motor integration. So all those areas and also, sorry, RDX and HMX plant. So all these activities, we are expecting a INR60 crores of capex in the financial year.

Varun Jain

Sir for this RDX and HMX capacity, I think the current round of capex, we are taking it from 100 times to 600 or so. So beyond that also, you are taking in FY ’27, if my numbers are correct?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes. capex -wise, I don’t think we will do in ’27 at Katepally or PDK. That will be finishing in the current year and probably year FY ’26, first quarter or two. So after that, I think we’ll be full. There will be no possibility of adding anything because of the land constraint. So we have to go to the new place.

Varun Jain

Okay. And sir, any like capex plans for FY ’28, have you chalked out or not yet?

T.V. Chowdary

No, not yet. We have plans, but I don’t think…

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Land is allotted.

T.V. Chowdary

Yes, once the land is allotted, we’ll. Otherwise, now we are at the stage of project report submission for allocation of land and other things.

Varun Jain

Okay, sir. And just my last question is that, sir, for FY ’27, I think your majority of revenue will come from, one, the chaffs and flares orders and secondly, the HMX and RDX sales, which will be INR150 crores or so. So next year, the EBITDA margin, consol EBITDA margin should be close to 21%, 22% in that range, right?

T.V. Chowdary

That also is there, and we have other products also. So it can be anywhere between the 15% to 20% based on the product mix, what we supply.

Varun Jain

Because majority of it will be coming from these products, and they are very higher-margin products and especially with RDX and HMX, they have a very high realization presently. So that’s why I was asking that it should be on the higher side, right?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

We are hoping so.

T.V. Chowdary

We are hoping that it will be higher side. We are also hoping that based on the present orders and also product mix.

Varun Jain

Okay. That’s all from me. Thank you, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Deepak Karwa [Phonetic], an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Deepak Karwa

Am I audible, sir?

T.V. Chowdary

Yes.

Deepak Karwa

Thank you for the opportunity. Sir, my first question is regarding our cash conversion cycle has improved significantly over 300 days in past few years to around 90 days currently. Like going forward on a sustainable basis, where do you expect the cash conversion cycle to stabilize?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

You are trying to maintain this. Actually, that depends on the product mix, if you go with the Ministry of Defense and other things. So that takes a little time to get the funds. So rest of the people, we have a fixed time line. So anyhow, we are trying to maintain…

Deepak Karwa

Okay. And like additionally, on the working capital side, how much working capital would be required to execute the current order book of approximately INR1,300 crores?

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

We have sufficient working capital lines. A lot of banks are ready to give further working capital also. So on the need basis, we are taking it. That’s why our finance cost is also lower. Wherever it is required, we are taking it. Otherwise, we are not — we are utilizing it from the advances from the customers and others.

Deepak Karwa

Okay. And are we expecting any sustainable order for bulk explosives? Any order we expecting to receive from Coal India?

T.V. Chowdary

Coal India, the prices are so low. So unless we get our price at a reasonable price, which at least breaks even, we are not entering into that. So right now, we are not supplying any bulk explosives to Coal India. Some accessories are being supplied. We are right now servicing Singareni Collieries in two mines with the bulk explosives and all those. Coal India plants are under shutdown.

Deepak Karwa

Okay, sir. Understood, sir. Thank you, sir. All the best for future.

T.V. Chowdary

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions from the participants, I would like to hand the conference over to Mr. T.V. Chowdary for the closing comments. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

T.V. Chowdary

Thank you very much, Mr. Gandhi. Thank you very much, all of you for supporting us and time to time. This conference call could not be conducted immediately after the Board meeting because I was traveling for land and other things to Andhra government. So we will inform all of you whenever the land allotment is completed. Thank you.

Buddhavarapu Mahadeva Vijay Kumar

Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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