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KNR Constructions Limited (KNRCON) Q2 2025 Earnings Call Transcript

KNR Constructions Limited (NSE: KNRCON) Q2 2025 Earnings Call dated Nov. 13, 2024

Corporate Participants:

K. Venkata Ram RaoFounder Promoter & Managing Director

K. Jalandhar ReddyPromoter & Executive Director

Analysts:

Mohit KumarAnalyst

Shravan ShahAnalyst

Ravi NarediAnalyst

Parikshit KandpalAnalyst

Vaibhav ShahAnalyst

Vasudev GanatraAnalyst

Faisal HawaAnalyst

Subrata SarkarAnalyst

Abhishree BangAnalyst

Uttam Kumar SrimalAnalyst

Abhishek PipariyaAnalyst

Saket KapoorAnalyst

Presentation:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to KNR Constructions Limited Q2 FY ’25 Earnings Conference Call. This conference call may contain forward-looking statements about the company, which are based on the beliefs, opinions and expectations of the company as on date of this call. These statements are not a guarantee of future performance and involves risks and uncertainties that are difficult to predict.

[Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. K. Venkata Ram Rao, General Manager, Finance and Accounts, KNR Constructions Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

K. Venkata Ram RaoFounder Promoter & Managing Director

Good morning, everybody. Thank you for joining us today on the call to discuss our financial results for Q2 and H1 FY ’25. Along with me, I have Mr. K. Jalandhar Reddy, Executive Director; and Strategic Growth Advisors, our Investor Relations Advisors.

We have uploaded results and investor presentation on the stock exchange as well as on our company website. I hope everyone got an opportunity to go through it. You would like to touch upon a few key company updates and industry events post which we will have a question-and-answer session.

I would now like to share our perspective on the significant industry development. In the first-half of the year, we observed a slowdown in awarding of the projects primarily due to general elections. However, the Board has set target aiming to award project worth INR5 lakh crores for the current financial year. This commitment gained momentum in September with project bid pipeline amounting to INR1.1 trillion, primarily driven by HAM and EPC projects.

Looking ahead, the government is also preparing to approve additional highway projects, which could bring the total cost of sanctioned projects to INR2 lakh crores by the end of December. This robust pipeline affirmed the government commitment to maintaining an aggressive pace in highway consumption. Additionally, the NHAI is undertaking several transformative initiatives, including collaboration with banks to implement advanced toll collection technology on expressway. This state-of-art multi-lane free flow system will replace trailing toll collection removing the need for physical toll booth. Moreover, NHAI is constructing 24 new tunnel across India, spanning a total of 223 kilometers. This extensive project aim to significantly enhance the country’s highway infrastructure with an estimated cost of around INR1 trillion. Lastly, the government decision to double that FX liability period to 10 years for the contractor of EPC mark are crucial steps towards enhancing the quality and longevity of the national highway infrastructure.

This policy change is expected to lower long-term maintenance cost for the government and improve road safety and user satisfaction by keeping infrastructure in optimal condition. Ultimately, this shift will support the development of more reliable and sustainable highway network across India. With this initiative, a strong bidding pipeline and a diversified order book, we are confident that positive growth momentum lies ahead.

Now coming to the key update of the company. The percentage of fiscal projects as of September 30, 2024 for the HAM project is around — is as follows. Magadi to Somwarpet around 87%, Oddanchatram to Madathukulam 100%, Ramanattukara to Valanchery 82%, Valanchery to Kappirikkad 84%, Chittor to Thatchur 77%, Marripudi to Somvarappadu 12%. As of September 30, 2024, the company has already invested INR556 crores out of INR992 crores revised equity requirement for all eight HAM projects. The additional liquidity requirement of INR436 crores to be increased as INR200 crores INR120 crores and INR116 crores for H2 FY ’25 — FY ’26 and FY ’27 respectively. You can refer to the Slide number 27 of the investor presentation for detail on each HAM project.

Pursuant to the settlement agreement signed between NHAI and KNR Muzaffarpur Barauni Tollway Private Limited, the company has received INR317.69 crores, including INR142 crores of the interest on unsecured loan from the — from the SPV. Additionally, as per the terms of the settlement agreement, the FTE has repaid its entire debt obligation to the lenders and the project will be foreclosed. The toll collection of Muzaffarpur Barauni toll project was taken over by NHAI with effect from 1st of November 2024.

On 29th October 2024, the company has signed Share Purchase Agreement with JKM Infra Projects Limited and/or Mr. Gaurav Jalan, Investor for INR45.90 lakh, for which the company will transfer its entire stake, that is 0.65% in SPV and further KNRC Holding and Investment Private Limited, the wholly-owned subsidiary of the company will also transfer its entire state that is 100% to the Investor.

Now coming to the order book position. As of September 30, 2024, the company has total order book position of INR4,406 crores, which can be bifurgated as 52% of the EPC road project, HAM project, whereas 23% of the total order book is for irrigation project and balance 25% is for pipeline project.

Client wise bifurgation is 67% of order book is from third-party client and balance 33% is from the Captive HAM Projects. The third-party order book percentage is split between state government contract as 54% where 11% for the central government and balance 2% is from the other private players. And we note that this order book does not include contract aggregating to INR1,200 crores as we have not yet received the appointed debt for our two HAM project. If we include this, our order book will increase to INR5,606 crores. This order book will execute over a period of around one and a half years to two years. With a recent election behind us and clear government emphasis on the road and highway development, we anticipate an increase in new order work. We are aiming for order inflow of approximately INR6,000 crores to INR8,000 crores for the next year.

Lastly, India Rating has affirmed its outlook on the long-term bank facility as IND AA/Stable and also a short-term rating is affirmed at IND A1+.

Before discussing the financial number, I would like to highlight that during the quarter, the company has received an arbitation claim from its Orisha project of INR28 crores, which includes in the total revenue and INR43 crores towards interest on such claim is included in other income. And also expenses related to such claim of INR90.93 crores is included in other expenses and resulting tax of INR17.6 crores included in current tax.

I would like to further clarify an exceptional item of INR15 crores for this quarter, which resulted from two specific transactions. First one is the Patel KNR Infrastructures Limited, our associate company brought back its 32,71,161 shares held by the company for a consideration of INR8.9 crores. And accordingly, the resultant profit on such buyback of INR5.6 crores, that is included in exceptional items in the statement of standalone profit and loss.

Secondly, the company has made a provision of INR21 crores towards the receivables from the CUBE Highways and Infrastructure Limited, which includes in the exceptional item. This was due to the non-fulfillment of some of the condition of the SPV instituted between the company, CUBE Highway and the respective SPV.

Now let me take through the Q2 and H1 FY ’25 standalone financial performance first, followed by the consolidated financial highlights. I will start with the quarterly highlights, sir. The revenue for the quarter stood at INR884 crores. EBITDA for Q2 FY ’25 is largely stable at 1% degrowth due to INR165 crores as compared to INR166 crores in Q2 FY ’24. EBITDA margin in Q2 FY ’25 is 18.6%. Net profit for the current quarter was INR334 crores as compared to INR100 crores in Q2 FY ’24, registered a growth of 235% year-on-year.

Now coming to H1 FY ’25 highlights. The revenue for H1 FY ’25 stood at INR1,764 crores. EBITDA for H1 FY ’25 grew by 5% to INR357 crores as compared to INR339 crores in H1 FY ’24. EBITDA margin in H1 FY ’25 stood at 20.2%. Net profit for H1 FY ’25 was INR469 crores as compared to INR210 crores in H1 FY ’24. The adjusted turnover EBITDA, PBT and PAT for the quarter and half year ended is INR856 crores, 16.12%, 14.94%, 10.92% and for the — for the half year ended, it is INR1,675 crores, 16.33%, 14.44% and 10.4% respectively.

Now coming to the consolidated financial performance. I will start with the quarterly highlights first. The company recorded a year-on-year growth of 87% in the total revenue from INR1,038 crores in Q2 FY ’24 to INR1,945 crores in Q2 FY ’25. EBITDA came in at INR870 crores in Q2 FY ’25 from INR232 crores in Q2 FY ’24, a growth of 226% year-on-year. EBITDA margin in the current quarter stood at 44.7%. Profit-after-tax stood at INR580 crores in Q2 FY ’25 vis-a-vis INR143 crores in Q2 FY ’24, a year-on-year growth of 306%.

Moving on H1 FY ’25 highlights. The revenue for H1 FY ’25 grew by 45% year-on-year to INR2,930 crores. EBITDA for H1 ’25 was INR1,148 crores as compared to INR447 crores in FY ’24, registering a 157% growth. EBITDA margin for H1 FY ’25 stood at 39.2%. Net profit grew by 120% year-on-year to INR746 crores compared to INR276 crores in FY ’24.

Now moving on the standalone balance sheet. The company continuing to maintain a strong balance sheet. The working capital date stood at 71 days compared to 78 days as of June 25. The consolidated debt as of September 30, 2024 is INR1,420 crores as compared to INR1,258 crores as of, 31 March 2024. The net-debt to equity on consolidated basis is as of September 30, 2024 stand at 0.33 times as compared to 0.36 times as of, 31 March 2024. The increase in consolidated turnover and PAT is due to pursuant to the settlement agreement that the KNR Muzaffarpur Barauni Private Limited was entitled to receive settlement amount of INR961.38 crores, which is included in revenue from operation, an amount of INR342 crores accounted towards EPC claim, which is included in-construction cards and INR49.67 crores towards the interest, which is included in the finance cost and amount of INR221.83 crores of intangible assets, which has been amortized and included in the depreciation and amortage expenses in the consolidated statement of profit and loss.

With this, we can open the floor for question-and-answer.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Mohit Kumar from ICICI Securities. Please go-ahead.

Mohit Kumar

Hi, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. My first — what is the pipeline of tender of EPC and HAM?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

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Mohit Kumar

Is it better now?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

It is better. Yes

Mohit Kumar

Thanks for the opportunity. My question is what is the pipeline of tender from NHAI for EPC and HAM? And can you also help us with the pipeline of BOT separately?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Sir, actually the pipeline in the sense there is nothing considerable that is there in pipeline kind of thing but there had been around 80, 85 tenders which we have studied in — on NHAI itself. So the 80 tenders which we are right away focusing and these are getting postponed. Actually there are certain tenders are supposed to be happening in this month, but many of them got postponed by 10 days, week and it’s kind of a month. So the gap is a little bit building up there. We just ask them why the delays that is happening. They say that the acquisition of land is not adequate. So until they achieve the 80% land position, they would like to hold these tenders. That is what NHAI is saying right now.

So probably second thing is after the new government has taken over the power, I think considerable [Indecipherable] is not started by them. So maybe March quarter in fourth quarter of this year could be flooding with all these tenders. That’s what I’m thinking because there is almost four and a half months time that is there. So it may start from Jan, February. It happened also earlier similarly. So even NHAI is expecting them — that from January onwards, the tenders may partially start — keep on pulling up and the peak will be in February and March. I think we’ll have to wait for that sort of window wherein many tenders that come up and at least we have studied 80 on 80, definitely we can try to get 5,000 to 6,000 from here and some certain state governance also we have studied and those tenders are bad.

Mohit Kumar

Anything expecting for the BOT, sir?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

BOT — actually BOT, we are cutting the terms with other players and those also we would like to go on. As a EPC player, certainly we had a discussion with Adanis also. They were also under discussion with us for a few projects and CUBE is also there. So whatever it is, we will give an exclusivity for them and we want an exclusivity from them. Certain — these two are being now under discussion. There isn’t actually the terms between the initial discussions are over for the Adani projects. So definitely we may strike some projects. And CUBE has already given as MOU, only we have to see the opportunities and participate.

Mohit Kumar

Understood, sir. My second question there. My second question is on the EBITDA margin. If I subtract the notes to account for INR27 crores and INR60 crores respectively for two notes to accounts, the EBITDA margin comes at 12.2%. I think you saw the lowest EBITDA margin. Am I right?

K. Jalandhar Reddy

No, no, no, sir. For the half year, if you adjusted with all the adjusted EBITDA is 16.33%, sir.

Mohit Kumar

For the half year?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

For the half year, yes.

Mohit Kumar

My last question is on the employee expenses, it looks to be slightly higher side compared to in the last three, four, five quarters. Is there any reason?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Which expenses, sir?

Mohit Kumar

Employee expenses.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually employee expenses, it’s the same only INR43 crore, but this quarter actually, as you know, we have paid to variable — paid to our directors amounting to around INR9.9 crores. So due to that reason, this quarter it has increased, but otherwise it is in the range of somewhere between INR41 to INR42 crores per quarter.

Mohit Kumar

Understood, sir. Thank you. Best of luck. Thank you.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital. Please go-ahead.

Shravan Shah

Hi, sir. Continuing the same thing. So for us, the order inflow is the main concern. So just trying to bit understand further. So when we say, 80, 85 tenders that we are looking at, if you can help us in terms of what’s the value and this is only the NHAI one? And in terms of the HAM and EPC is how much? So that is first one.

And second, maybe if you can also elaborate in terms of the MSRDC, what we are looking at there or yes, so first on that.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually, MSRDC, we are under discussion with Navayuga. Navayuga Constructions is there where they have three [Indecipherable] in Pune this thing, which they were offering one project to us, which is under discussion. We need to examine the case and come back. Then one we have already under — given an MOU with Patel, pre-tender bidding we have done to Patel. If they get the job definitely we will be facing that. So each is having around INR2,000 crore-plus values only. So that is one aspect.

Second, as you asked that 80, 85 tenders which we have studied, this is actually the quantum, I’m not totally summed it, but the projects are varying from INR800 to INR1,600 crores. The max is INR800 crore, the minimum is 1,800 and 1,600 crore is the max. So those are the ticket sizes which we have sorted. Very few are there in INR600 crores to INR750 crores level, but most of them are above.

Shravan Shah

Okay. And roughly in terms of the EPC and HAM would be how much of 50-50 would be out of this 80, 85 would be a HAM and EPC?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

HAM. As of entire HAM only, because EPC from — I’m not hoping anything out of it. I’m really focusing on some Tamil Nadu bids in flyovers and all. some flyovers and somewhere in — even higher projects are actually also likely to come, which we have examined from their department. So we are waiting those tenders to happen. Once they happen, definitely, we’ll try to grab some out of that.

And apart from that, we are also thinking about that some projects — whatever EPC mode projects which Adani bags or this CUBE bags which we have already spoken now. So those are also started and they are in line.

Shravan Shah

Thank you. Okay. So this MSRDC Navayuga — just to clarify that one project that we are looking at, so that itself is close to a INR2,000 odd crore and even for Patel Infra that we have a MOU, that value is also close to INR2,000 odd crore.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes.

Shravan Shah

Okay. So let’s say…

K. Venkata Ram Rao

If we already have got the job and from there we are discussing. So the price between us and them should be finalized. So we were waiting this right election go because we don’t know which government is going to come in Maharashtra. And so what would you say? Who’s going to come? So if they like to continue that then it is good otherwise I know if there are any and then they may cancel these projects because just before the election, they have already given [Indecipherable] on this. So a little bit delays are there, but still I think I’m a bit comfortable things will happen like what happened in AP and all. So only AP is exceptional state where the developmental projects have been hampered because of political movements and all. But I don’t think such things will happen in Maharashtra.

Shravan Shah

Yes. So, sir, just to come back. So let’s say if we get this INR7,000 crores INR6,000 crores INR8,000 crore order inflow that we are looking at and I think the revenue got most likely to start in the next FY ’26 next year. So this year, so two things to understand. First, this year already in 1H, we have close to core revenue is INR1675 crore, 10% down. So for full-year at a core revenue, how much we are looking for FY ’25 and assuming that we get the INR6,000 crores INR8,000 crore order inflow in this by March. So in FY ’26, how one can look at in terms of the revenue?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

FY ’25, I am expecting that even we grabbed the job in the last quarter of this year. So there is a six-month gap that will come out. So by the time we’ll have to see that all the two quarters, we have to completely finish all the order book whatever we have. So, and after that, how many jobs which have come in — what are the — actually, if you take this — if Maharashtra is successful in ’25. Maharashtra successful that can impact in two, three months earlier. So first-quarter will leak, second-quarter will plan. Maybe there could be some rains and all, but we will start in the second-quarter, those projects.

But HAM projects and all, it can be taken-up in the six years — six months later only because they are now they are coming up with the 80% land. I don’t have the dilemma as I have in among my sector. So certain dilemmas are not there in that. So we can set a start in this month. So that separatory works, we’ll keep it in very strong way so that we try to hit the team. But sir, these are in some sense is very, very assumable things. So I rate little less only in the coming year also. So maybe that we may have to bear with that. And after that I think things would be good.

Shravan Shah

Sir, still not able to understand — still trying to understand. So this year, can we do close to INR3,400 crores INR3,500 crore kind of a revenue and assuming as — okay, okay, got it. And for next year, let’s say of — as you said, even if we start the HAM exit…

K. Venkata Ram Rao

INR2,500 crore, we are — no doubt we are targeting for INR4,500 crore provided this order book at least equal to INR5,000 to 6,000.

Shravan Shah

Okay. And then and margin to remain the same 16%..

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Iam not a little bit guaranteeing, but the second-last two quarters, we will rock and we’ll see that.

Shravan Shah

And then at margin level, 16% or can be maintained.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Very difficult to say because all the new orders which are coming. So EBITDA, the sales we have placed that bid and I win the bid has helped the market, then only I’ll be able to answer this question, sir. But we will try where the thing is we tried our best-in the industry as of now. So we will focus to have that.

Shravan Shah

Okay. Lastly, sir, when this pipeline projects, INR1,100 crore to start execution and to appointed date or when that appointed date to come? And lastly on the capex front?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Two months-to go, sir. Actually that — whose environment clearance, I think in another one month it could come. So there’ll be formality to close — one month they are saying, but I am envisizing using two months, we should start the job. That’s it.

Shravan Shah

For pipeline or for the two HAM projects that we will be expecting the appointed it.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

HAM projects.

Shravan Shah

For HAM projects in two months appointed it and for pipeline projects when the execution will start?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Pipeline projects started as well.

Shravan Shah

Okay.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Because I think there have been certain stage-wise constructions are there. Unless we achieve that stage, the payments are not eligible in that.

Shravan Shah

Then lastly, if you can touch upon on the…

K. Venkata Ram Rao

11% job. I think upon reaching the 15% of the project value, we have a milestone to get paid. Like that.

Shravan Shah

Okay. And lastly, sir, irrigation payment, when we now expect because last payment we have received in February, so I think the outstanding is more than INR1,000 odd crore. So when we are expecting?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

INR900 crores, little bit INR900 crores, I think what happened actually whatever it is billed around INR7,400 crore is billed. Sorry, INR700 crores crores, INR740 crores is billed actually. And this bill — it is not recorded. I mean, we were insisting on them to record and we’ve been giving continuation letters to record the bill. But since the payment is not accessible to them by that loan component, so they are just looking at certain issues are there. I think if they resolve that loan issue, then these things will be resolved. I am hoping, sir, very uncertain it is. I can say within two months it can be solved. I think they were saying that department and even we met the minister also, he said he will try to call with one-to-one.

Shravan Shah

Got it, sir. Thank you and all the best, sir.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Ravi Naredi from Naredi Investment. Please go-ahead.

Ravi Naredi

Thank you to give me the opportunity. Sir, how many more claims are pending with NHAI or other authorities?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

How many claims pending — sir, how more claims are done. One claim will come in this quarter and the date is 07, which is there — have for there. Sorry, not annuity project whose claim has already has come in mid quarter. So this quarter we will be having that also. But after that, I think we have very strong.

Ravi Naredi

How much claim it will come in this quarter?

K. Jalandhar Reddy

Around INR130 crores will come.

Ravi Naredi

INR130 crore and it will go in income only, right?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

I mean some part in income, some part in other income that we are[Indecipherable].

Ravi Naredi

Sir, you are so knowledgeable person about the road construction. Sir, tell commentary on-road projects from NHAI, how many kilometers they have sanctioned and how many more kilometers will come in this financial year ’26, can you give some commentary, it will help?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, that record is there.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

Yes. Actually this year they have targeted, it’s around INR5 lakh crore actually in the current financial year. That is a moreth target. And out of that, around they have sanctions for INR2 lakh crores by end of December.

Ravi Naredi

Okay.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

So this is a lot of lot of projects are there actually, which is to commercial because almost last one, one and a half years, not much project was awarded. So we are expecting that definitely in Q4 actually, some definitely a big rally will come. So we want to capitalize that rally actually.

Ravi Naredi

Okay. So you mean to say maybe 3 lakhs road project maybe come in the fourth-quarter for?

K. Jalandhar Reddy

We are expecting — we are expecting.

Ravi Naredi

Expecting. But we will be the only where our margin is reasonable, right?

K. Jalandhar Reddy

Yes. That’s why we are working on that actually. So definitely we will look into that.

Ravi Naredi

Okay. Thank you all the best, sir.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Parikshit Kandpal from HDFC Securities. Please go-ahead.

Parikshit Kandpal

Hi. My question is on the — good morning, sir. Sir, my question is on the irrigation receivable.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We’ve got to come up with this.

Parikshit Kandpal

So first thing is that I can see you have approximately INR500 crores, INR520 crores of cash-in the consolidated. So that is the right number, right, including investments, current investments.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. So this year September, our standalone cash is around INR347 crores and consol cash is sorry, INR247 crores and consol cash is INR460 crores,

Parikshit Kandpal

INR460 crore and including investments about INR520 crores.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, investment is separate, yes.

Parikshit Kandpal

So my question is, if we were getting the receivables on-time and once we realize all this INR900 odd crores of receivables, which you pointed out. So in terms of billing, the pending work which — in terms of progress and the receivables, which is due. So how much of this would have been the cash if then these receivables were coming on-time. So how much of the receivables are overdue against the timelines for the one only.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Except I think we don’t have anything else. Everything is on-time, because we have for — I don’t know we are targeting otherwise. We have INR435 crores receivables from the pending from the HAM project that we are not drawing because we have the surplus cash-flow in the parent company. So this INR435 crore any day we can draw, only around INR600 crores is certified receivables as on September. That is only due actually. Around that major is a package four.

Parikshit Kandpal

So from Irrigation, I’m asking INR900 crores, how much of receivables are overdue? I mean, which had come on-time would have resulted in cash sitting on our book. So how much is that number? So you said INR435 crores.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Almost — almost INR600 crores, if you know.

Parikshit Kandpal

So INR600 crore from there, if it gets realized and INR400 from HAMS, it’s about INR1,000 crores and you have another INR500 crore so totally INR1,500 crores of cash would have been in-place if you were going through a normal-course of business, right?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, correct, correct.

Parikshit Kandpal

So how much will you do with so much of cash once in six months time you get.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We will give because we have to put there all of BOT projects are coming and the annuities are coming, we have to run our business only and nowadays our — EPC you may forget about EPC, EPC is very, very [Indecipherable] today. So we have to focus more on this HAM project as well on BOT. So is there another irrigation due. If all that comes, we will be comfortably running the company without any and without taking additional debt or anything. That’s what the plan for going-forward. And we will have a gold scope also. See, since we have — we are intimate sitting on a cash file, we can focus more on with whatever the appetite we have, we will go up to that limit and we will try to do the business.

Parikshit Kandpal

The only thing is, sir, you are making the platforms with CUBE or with Adani on one-way where you will need not invest in BOT so much, you will convert it into EPC.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Adani is asking us for participating in a partnership also we are examining, but a big guy to participate. Rather than that, we are spotting another method that anything below INR2,000 crore tender loan month and that to which has good potential. We would like to also participate in those tenders alone and try to do alone and as we did in the earlier that Walayar [Indecipherable]– all that we want to do in a similar pattern.

Parikshit Kandpal

Okay. So what is the standalone debt right now, sir, sorry, I missed that number standalone debt.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Nothing is there, INR2.95 crores that some cash.

Parikshit Kandpal

I think you should be stepping because we are not able to grow now and maybe you have structured our business that we are only into roads and we are not making any serious efforts to diversify beyond roads for many quarters we’ve been talking about. So I think it’s better we should distribute some of this cash as and when it gets realized as a stepping up dividend or maybe buybacks because.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually hoping what it is, see, even today if I focus on one BOT project whose value is around, say, INR2,000 crore, little bit below that only I want to look at it. It is 2% if I take, 30% is the equity which we have to put. Sir, if those projects there are not yet any of that will be under rotation and it is good application also.

Parikshit Kandpal

But sir, then [Foreign Speech] diversification you’ll have to see right because [Foreign Speech]

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Diversification, yes, you have examined [Foreign Speech] every way that it is we bond our hands [Foreign Speech] worse education. what about at least our highway because we know about everything. So now I want to stabilize my business through these BOTs, tolls and annuity and then look at the — something else, sir, because under panicness, if I start looking at now, I’ll be — I’ll be going wrong, which I’m thinking also. I mean, it’s not that I’m not examining the cases. I’m examining the cases, sir. I think I have predicated — I have already — last-time I told you that one CETPS [project was there and quite a big project, it was actually INR5,000 crores worth of contract was there with hands in that fellows hand, but he was asking for a wrong price. So we couldn’t go because our return-on-equity was very less. So we have offered one price and we left it because he is not coming to our price. I don’t want to take something with a lesser thing.

Parikshit Kandpal

You said, CETP project,

K. Venkata Ram Rao

CETP project, what happened is you were showing wrong costs in the maintenance, which we caught and that is not agreeing to it and we have proven him, sir. So there he want to cheat us, so then we said no, he started cheating of itself with a going partnership, then things will be wrong directly.

Parikshit Kandpal

With this project.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

I mean we examine every good field, whichever available.

Parikshit Kandpal

Sorry, what project was this? you said STP?.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

STP. Actually you know that the pharmaceutical waste — that treatment, we used to bed the treatment to

Parikshit Kandpal

STV, STP project,

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That project we have examined actually. One [Indecipherable] one company called that is a 50% stake to sales area [Foreign Speech] we have examined that case [Foreign Speech]. Valuation was not fixing into our business.

Parikshit Kandpal

So just on the efforts which you are making to recover the irrigation receivables of INR900 crores. So last-time I think on the call, you said you’ll take it legally and now you’re saying again the loan is — so now this project is only — the funding of this project is only dependent on the loans or can it also be met through the budget — budgetary support from the government? So how will the payment come? I mean, what will the government properly?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Can you speaker louder sir?

Parikshit Kandpal

Can you hear me now? Is it better, sir? Hello?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes.

Parikshit Kandpal

So I was saying that you had last call you had said that you will maybe pursue legal options to recover the receivables, irrigation receivables. So beyond the — so what are the progress on that? And you also mentioned that the Minister is saying that in two months some resolution will happen. So will the funding of this project only be dependent on loans or is there any possibility of any budgetary support or supplementary budgetary support being provided? So what will give us confidence that the project recovery or the collection is on-track now?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually the irrigation, sir, it is completely political what is happening here is completely political. We met for this. We met the chief minister also and we told him our issues. He met ministry that the irriation ministry to consider to pursue the loan component also. So I think last-time we then but is — yeah, yes, sir. [Foreign Speech] Time was given by the [Indecipherable] within two months will resolve. That’s what it is told to us. It is out of hand, our hands, but we are completely vigorously performed that. It’s not only me that Mega is there and Navayuga is also pursuing there for their payments, we are all together fighting for that actually.

Parikshit Kandpal

And have you slowed down the execution on the balanced order book like how much was the revenue this quarter and for this year, how much is the projection as per the current collections?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Overall, we are definitely last year we did INR4,000 crores. So this year we are targeting because there may be some shortfall. So we may touch somewhere around INR3,500 crores to INR3,500 crores to INR3,600 crores turnover in this year because what are our existing asset projects are there like Kerala project and every project, almost 80% work is completed on the book. All the project by March ’25, we should be able to complete and we’ll achieve somewhere around INR3,500 crores of turnovers.

Parikshit Kandpal

No, the irrigation [Foreign Speech]. So how are you looking at now.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually this quarter also we did actually in irrigation around 17% we did actually around INR150 crores per turnover. The same turnover definitely we will do on the balance order book is there almost and irrigation is INR900 crores from these two projects actually package three and package four and one is that anyway this — our pipeline project that is will start working giving billing from Q4. But out of this INR900 crores, definitely actually INR150 crores around the — you can say why we will do around INR150 crores of a turnover effluent from this project in every quarter. So fastening area, but still we have to execute because what is happening if we stop our machinery and because ultimate it will become cost to us and we have already going through legally and put our claim through court also. So we are making all our efforts actually. We are talking to the concern ministry and as well as putting all the legal efforts both the way actually we are going. But we cannot completely stop the work actually. We will slowly excute.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

What happened actually to stop the work, I would like to add two words here. See, the situation here is that almost we have given order for the doll pump and motors. Everything and I think three pumps, three motors have come and they are now under assembly. And one more to come. In the last hour, if we do such thing, definitely will become defaulter in the — in-progress. So we are — we have only left way — we — only the way we have left with this is that you do the work and through court also if we can fight for that once we finish the work. So that is where a little bit we have to think on it and do itself. So — and you know, everything is mobilized, equipment, everything is there. If you don’t do the work, at least that revenue doesn’t happen. So once completion is there, once we do the completion, definitely at the fact and for commissioning and all we can stop like we can even get paid from court all that course will give us very fair things, right?

Parikshit Kandpal

Okay. Just the last question, sir, how much was the total order inflow in this year till-date? And when is this pipeline? And also can you elaborate a little bit on the pipeline project?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. So this year — this year, no order book. [Foreign Speech].

Parikshit Kandpal

[Foreign Speech]

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually this year we have not received any orders in this year. This pipeline at INR1,100 crores. That’s a pipeline. That is actually —

K. Jalandhar Reddy

That is a 12% asset per project. I think 15% say we will be getting to get paid with that. I think the funds are available because there are things they have been getting from central government to.

Parikshit Kandpal

These are Jal Jeevan Mission projects.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. Amrut 2.0

Parikshit Kandpal

Okay.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Under 25% funding by the central government, under that project has awarded

Parikshit Kandpal

75% by the State.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Now by the state government. Yes.

Parikshit Kandpal

This project is financially utilizable funds are available for this project.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, for that, they are already budgeted actually because central government is there, because that’s why they have budgeted these projects. There won’t be any payment issue for this project.

Parikshit Kandpal

Okay, sir. Sure. Thank you, sir.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Hopefully, they don’t divert.

Parikshit Kandpal

Thank you, sir. I wish you all the best.

Operator

Thank you very much. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Vaibhav Shah from JM Financial Limited. Please go-ahead.

Vaibhav Shah

Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, out of a INR1,000 crore irrigation order book, what is the unbilled portion?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Unbilled will be around INR400 crores is — sorry, INR300 crores. Around INR400 crores is unbilled.

Vaibhav Shah

So incremental revenue potential should be actually around INR700 crores, which would less around INR600 crores.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, correct. Incremental revenue will be around INR600 crores.

Vaibhav Shah

Okay. Secondly, what is the outstanding irrigation receivables?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Receivables is INR600 crores is there.

Vaibhav Shah

And the total — the total number? which was INR900 crores last year.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Unbilled everything, it will be around INR1,000 crores.

Vaibhav Shah

And sir, last-time you indicated that you are looking to recover around INR300 odd crores in third-quarter. So what’s the status on that?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That’s why the — regarding irrigation this was — that’s why we recently actually our management had discussed with the concerned ministry. So we are expecting in the next two months actually will get paid-off actually.

Vaibhav Shah

So how much we are expecting in next two months?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

In that — INR600 crores actually.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

During discussion, we have asked a full payment to be done because now the project is under completion also, almost 85% is over only 15% will be executed. So with that holding also received, it’s in the situation that I cannot go back or I cannot stop like that things are like this. So definitely we have spoken to Minister, I think they are resolving what they’re saying. The loan components are any movement it can be resolved actually. That’s not a big deal also. Only some margin money they have to pay or which they are — that doing. So I think if they do that, I think we’ll be to go good. We’ll pay it up.

Vaibhav Shah

And sir, on the inflow side, we guided for INR6,000 crores INR8,000 crores of inflows. So that is for FY ’25, right?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes correct.

Vaibhav Shah

Okay. And sir, in terms of execution, we are saying there will be a decline of around, say, 6%, 7% odd percent for FY ’25. So can ’26 be a good amount of growth given the lower turnover in FY ’25?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That is based on what we told if we are receiving project of like MSRDC or other EPC project in Q4, so definitely we could able to do better in the ’26. But if it is — we are getting mostly HAM project, then again it will take further six months-to financial closure and after getting appointed it. So that’s why ’26 we have to really see in Q4 how much project is coming and in which sectors, whether EPC, HAM or BOT. So based on that ’26 revenue we can able to tell, how much we will achieve in ’26.

Vaibhav Shah

And lastly for the pipeline order, we said that 15% is the — at 15%, we can start booking the revenue the milestone. So can we reset milestone by Q4 or it will be in next year?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Then we can start with Q4. We will achieve milestone in Q4.

Vaibhav Shah

Okay. Thank you, sir. Those are my questions.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Vasudev from Nuvama. Please go-ahead.

Vasudev Ganatra

Thank you for the opportunity, sir. Just one question from my side. What is the capex that we did in Q2 and how much are we planning for the second-half now?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually, so-far we did in first-six months — Q2, we did around INR4 crores only. So first-six months, we did around INR13 crores only. So definitely next this year, we are not really seeing any capex we are going to incur. But what are the project in Q4 is we are getting some project or based on that, we will really see. But based on current or whatever the order book is there for that not much capex is required.

Vasudev Ganatra

Okay, sure, sir. Thank you. That’s it from my side.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Faisal Hawa from H.G Hawa and Co. Please go-ahead.

Faisal Hawa

So sir, when we are now looking at — taking Andhra Pradesh orders and even telling them more orders. So are we now changing our stance that we will now be a little more flexible in late payments and the usual difficulties associated with state government? That’s one.

Second is, sir, does the — our now increased cash balances increase — increase our chances a lot in the large ticket BOT orders? And third is, sir, when do we plan to sell our projects to CUBE or whoever other is interested for Kerala and other ones which are going to complete and what is the kind of return-on-equity that we are investing — that we are expecting on these projects?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

So first one is regarding for what, sir?

Faisal Hawa

We are going to now bid a lot for a lot of this Andhra Pradesh development projects and Telangana projects and even this Telangana river side projects. So — and even telling that I did the state government payments are usually not on-track and there’s lot of follow-up to be done. So is the management now taking a change of stance that we can get that kind of headache and still try to get the orders?,

K. Venkata Ram Rao

AP, we are expecting projects they may start in coming couple of months onwards they start coming up because I think they are budgeting some amounts and Central government is also sanctioning them some amounts. So with all that, they will start something and tenders will happen in couple of months. So maybe that is also expected by March-end only. So that I think I heard about, say, INR20,000 crore worth of contracts may come up from that in this year. So we are not — actually, sir, the main purpose of aiming the state government fees generally see, they are very eager in developing their state, Telangana sorry, Andhra Pradesh. And if they don’t pay their development will stop and they will not be able to do. And we are also — we will also go for a strategic way of doing it. We only invest 12%. If they don’t pay for that 10%, we’ll stop doing it. The other things are like that. And so we will have an alternate work. These projects, equipment around to the same state we’ll have — even we have — we are running projects are there with because in HAM projects are there other projects are there, there we can double the resources and speed-up the semi government projects. So that can happen. So state governments are focused because of the EPC model only sir. EPC is always give us more cash flows back and you know working capital is also less in that.

Faisal Hawa

When do we propose to sell our HAM projects and what is the kind of return-on-equity that we can make? Because I feel that will add another, I think, INR150 crores to INR200 crores extra cash-flow to us whenever that comes.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. Sir, we are discussing with a the prospective investors regarding the sale of our four HAM project. Out of that one project that’s KNR that is our project is already we got the PCOD. Definitely by March actually, we should be able to close that project. And other three projects also because we are expecting that we will receive PCOD in the March, it will take further six months from there. So you can say by March ’26 actually, we could be able to on the sell-off our four BOT assets and return is definitely it is better than the last — what we did in the last year, but return definitely is quite good actually.

Faisal Hawa

What is the total we have invested in these four HAM projects and what do we expect to get-out of them in March ’26? Total?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We have invested somewhere around INR500 crores actually. INR550 crores in these projects and we will definitely achieve better than our previous deal actually.

Faisal Hawa

So at least INR800 crores could come out of that total.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We are just discussing with them actually, but better than the last deal what I can say.

Faisal Hawa

And sir, I missed about the Adani JV. So are we saying that we will bid together with Adani for most of the BOT projects and they will also put up money and so will we put up the money also.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That they were asking for that and I’m not a little bit picking on it, because you know there are big people so do a EPC, take-away your money and then that’s better having 30 years, 20 years relations per BOT project is going to be a bit tough I think very big people now. So tomorrow we don’t even get appointment to discuss anything further with them.

Faisal Hawa

Correct.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

So same thing. So EPC is okay, do the work they pay and that’s okay. We can walk out with our segment. That’s what I’m thinking.

Faisal Hawa

You would prefer that you would just do the EPC from them not too much of their.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

EPC bid to them wherever there are INR3,000 crores, INR2,000 crores, INR4,000 crore projects are coming here. Size are the BOTs are now going to be in a big size. So that the competition is also going to be less when previous players are only going to participate because whose big guarantees are thirstly for that. So every.

Faisal Hawa

So now our competition would be only IRB and very, very big companies.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Very, very big companies. well. So — and we told me all these big companies will be getting filtered. Those many people will not come.

Faisal Hawa

Correct.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

So we also in 2000 below, we want to be a participate ourselves. Second, we even want to think of doing EPCs for the good player. We will give pre-tender EPC bid to them and they would exclusively. Their timing were exclusively is fine. That’s what we are thinking.

Faisal Hawa

Correct. So sir, more on an intangible basis, this is one of the first times that in the last eight or nine quarters that I have seen you very relaxed and quite optimistic about getting orders. So can we read more into it than it looks at this time you are very confident of getting most of the orders through?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Sure, it is all assumptions only. And of that, I can say that I’m very confident in getting one project at least and I’m struggling to get two projects, but at least one is — one I’m going to get from Maharashtra, say about INR2,000 crores kind of thing. I think that will be a subcontract thing only. Second, around 80, 85 projects which we have studied in this thing, HAM projects and we are quite confident of getting at least INR4000 crores to INR5,000 crore out of that. And even BOT tolls we are participating so around INR2,000 crore INR3,000 crore easily we can make from BOT tolls also. Maybe the time may increase, but that is possible. Second, we are also hoping certain projects from coming out of sections. There are some EPCs and flyover projects are coming and we are now completing our Coimbatore flyover. So right before that, there are tenders coming up. So we are rightly placed. So we will be definitely participating in those tenders and we will try to get the jobs and at least one, two jobs we get, whose size is about INR6,000 crores to INR500 crores, so INR1,000 crores INR1,500 crores. That will be the thing. And AP, I am at least INR2,000 crore AP may be and Karnataka also may come up with certain tenders, which are a bank funded or something that we are also looking up. And in the department, we made an inquiry. The land acquisition is going on very serious on a few projects, which we will be trying to participate. And Telangana also there is some irrigation projects, there is road project, but time may vary.

Faisal Hawa

But there is some talk of some very River side big project also coming in the Telangana.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes.That is also likely to come. I’m gearing up myself to participate in some of the STP projects also from there.

Faisal Hawa

We are qualified for that.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

So we have to take it in some JV.

Faisal Hawa

We are — we can qualify for that river side project.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We have to go with JV.

Faisal Hawa

Okay. Thanks a lot, sir. Wish you all the best.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line ofSubrata Sarkar from Mount Intra Finance Private Limited. Please go-ahead.

Subrata Sarkar

Hello. Yes, sir, actually my question I think you have partly addressed. My point was like since we are not finding this HAM, this entire road sector as of now, that attractive, why we are not trying to diverse into other areas, given that I believe we should have capability to address other areas also. I suppose you have addressed partly, but still if you want to want to add something.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. That’s why between first of all, we would like to see the scope is there sir. You know, if you go for irrigation sector, it is very similar. If you go to railways and all there is some contract, but overcrowded is there and give it lesser margins are. But if you focus on highways in NHAI. First thing is that HAMs and all little bit sensible bidding may happen, that’s what we are thinking, better than the EPC mode of contact.

Second, we are thinking that sole projects could be having good margins than the HAMs. So there is bright scope that we can get some stabilization on this thing. Right now, we have very less order in-hand. I do agree one year visibility is also not there as of now. So we were seeking to stabilize from the own captive field what we have. And then later we will also think of diversifying into several sector. As Raji said that we have examined a quite few other diversification sectors also. Like I said, CETPs we have examined and all that. So we are in — [Indecipherable] are on that. So definitely, we are successful and the returns are — company returns are safe definitely we are going to put in-the-money and we are going to do with it.

Subrata Sarkar

Thank you. Will appreciate it.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Abhishree Bang from JHP Securities Private Limited. Please go-ahead.

Abhishree Bang

Hello, am I audible?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. Please proceed.

Abhishree Bang

So sir, actually I just have one request. If you would please come up with a comprehensive slide on one-offs, which would give you — give us like-to-like comparison on financial performance, that would be very helpful for us.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually we have given the detail actually in our listing note okay, if you want, because this is all of — one-off is there in one quarter only, may not be in the next quarter. But if you want any clarification, you can reach us our — our investor advisor. We can clarify you.

Abhishree Bang

Okay, okay, sir. Thank you. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Uttam Kumar Srimal from Axis Securities Limited. Please go-ahead.

Uttam Kumar Srimal

Yes, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, last-time you had mentioned that you have bidded for an irrigation project in JV with NCC. So what is the current status of that.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That is NCC that is — that is — we have bidded that metro actually not — that is metro project in a [Indecipherable]

Uttam Kumar Srimal

Okay.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We have not got actually. We are not L1 on that project.

Uttam Kumar Srimal

Okay. And sir, what is the current status of ordering in the Andhra Pradesh government since the new government has come, are you seeing any meaningful order coming from this new government?

K. Jalandhar Reddy

Yes. That Amravati Development Authority is now being found earlier it was trapped. So now they are starting from scratch, so it is taking some time, that’s what they’re saying. So I think in a few days from now, I think few months — within two months, I think they’ll be able to call the Bidding. And because they are getting allotment from government as they are helping the country government to be in par, so they were likely to get more funds also.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

So, sir, what kind of bill pipeline would be there? If you can quantify that if you have some information on that? I heard about say INR20,000 crore around INR3,500 crores, they are bucketing themselves and INR15,000 crores were committed by the government, central government to some bank loan or something. So those are all proposals have been now prepared. So around INR20,000 crores is in the flow.

K. Jalandhar Reddy

They are also tying with the World Bank and ADV also funding us.

Uttam Kumar Srimal

So this will be, sir, basically in the road or irrigation or it will include everything.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

It will consider. That’s why there is a new.

Uttam Kumar Srimal

Okay, sir. That’s all from my side and all the best.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Abhishek Pipariya from ICICI Bank Limited. Please go-ahead.

Abhishek Pipariya

Good afternoon, sir. My call is — my query is regarding the NHAI dependency on the overall order book. So what is our — currently we have around INR4,406 crores of order book. So what is our NHAI funded or dependency projects?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Out of that almost of NHAI related project is around it is around 42% actually.

Abhishek Pipariya

42%. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Saket Kapoor from Kapoor Company. Please go-ahead.

Saket Kapoor

Namaskar, sir. And thank you for this opportunity. Sir, firstly, you alluded to this INR1,100 crore pipeline project. If you could just dwell, sir what is the scope of work here and which segment it is this pipeline-related to oil and gas or water?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

NO. It is on drinking water supply and sewage management.

Saket Kapoor

In which state it is, sir?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

In Telangana only.

Saket Kapoor

In Telangana?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes.

Saket Kapoor

Sir, you also mentioned…

K. Venkata Ram Rao

This kind of project. We need to construct the water tank and that STP and pipelines to we — and we have to give it to tax to the public actually.

Saket Kapoor

So this falls under the mission scheme come again sir.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

It is like Jal Jeevan, but it is under Amrut 2.0 scheme of the central government. It is awarded under Amrut 2.0 scheme. It is the same like you told Jal Jeevan only. We have to provide the drinking water to each house. This is basically a scope.

Saket Kapoor

Sir, there is lot been spoken about the river linking project also. And what do you see things on-ground, sir, in terms of this check picking-up and the scope companies like us would be gardening project.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Sir, definitely this — we are expecting under this [Indecipherable] 3.0, this river linking project, they will take-up this project because this term they are more concentrating on railway and other sectors other than road what we have seen that. So definitely river linking project is there in Madhya Pradesh and Uttar Pradesh and now in even our area also like in Krishna and Kaveri also they are linking, so their projects will come definitely. So we are expecting that once this project will come, we could able to bid that project.

Saket Kapoor

Yes, right, sir. And sir, you mentioned about your lackluster performance from the solar EPC and the railway part of the story. Can you dwell further where are you finding the issues cropping up in terms of solar EPC and also work from railways, which is being a cause of concern, you mentioned in your earlier remarks.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, because basically concerns of solar EPC is very, very thin margin actually project. So when we have seen that project to what — it is a — okay, because we want to diversify in the other sectors, but now we are seeing lot of visuality is there in even roads and other sectors like other state projects like in Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Telangana and even in Karnataka. So that’s why now we are not much focused on that sector because they are the thin margin and these are the project is there where we are very expert. So definitely we thought that let concentrate on these projects, NHAI and these state project and bag actually most of the projects from these entities.

Saket Kapoor

And sir, for H2, you are pointing towards lower turnover than what we did for H1. This is what you alluded to.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Sir, H2 actually we have lower turnover. Yes.

Saket Kapoor

Okay, sir. What should — what should be tentatively closing in terms of our execution on a control level, we did around INR2,900 for the first-half. And last year, it was INR4,430 crores.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. But, there is a one-off of there actually in this quarter regarding our Muzaffarpur project. That’s why it is more, but it will be the — you can say it will be in the same range as the last year only, except if you exclude the exceptional item in Q2.

Saket Kapoor

Right. And sir, [Indecipherable] there were — there are also some tendering which happened for the BharatNet project. Also, we are not an expertise there, but many, many — we have seen road developing companies also like DBL and all participated in that. So what’s the thought process sir here and we did not opted for it.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We have not seen that project actually as of now. So we are not able to comment on it. We have not seen that type of projects, sir

Saket Kapoor

Thank you for all the replies and all the best.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. The next question is from the line of Parikshit Kandpal from HDFC Securities. Please go-ahead.

Parikshit Kandpal

Regarding all these claims, so all the money has been realized. Cash has come.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

All money has realized, yes.

Parikshit Kandpal

So only INR130 crores which you send in this quarter will come like additional.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That is from our — another project actually, that is what has been our numbers. That is high. So that will come in this Q2.

Parikshit Kandpal

And just on the one last question on this Muzaffarpur Barauni project, so how much is the investment and loss funding and total outgo from our side and how much we have received overall?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Actually, around INR175 crores investment from other side actually our side that we have received entire and additionally — additionally INR140 crores we have received total around INR317 crores we received from that SPV.

Parikshit Kandpal

So this is in-line with the termination payments, which generally happens in case of any change.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

It is definitely — it is against that because it is against that settlement of entire and handing over the project and so based on that settlement agreement, so this figure has arrived.

Parikshit Kandpal

Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you very much. Next question is from the line of Saket Kapoor from Kapoor and Company. Please go-ahead. MR. Saket, your line is open.

Saket Kapoor

Yes, ma’am. Thank you. Sir, for the Amrut 2.0 scheme, can you give us some color how the pipeline looks like and bid pipeline especially.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Amrut 2.0 project because this project was our — this pipeline project that was there Amrut 2.0 scheme of the central government. So we have not seen the entire scheme of that actually, but this project was coming to Telangana and it is our — we are there from Telangana. So we thought that take this project, but we have not seen that pipeline from Amrut 2.0 project actually. Okay. Pipeline will be there because it is there Pan-India so — but we are very focused in our part of the territory because you’re not seeing that.

Saket Kapoor

So for the state of Telangana and Karnataka and Tamil Nadu, do we see other bids being floated for these type of projects of — which falls under the Amrut scheme or the Jal Jeevan scheme? Do you — do you find other projects also wherein we will participate?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

That’s we have seen only in the Telangana where we have participated. Other state we have not looked actually into.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. And sir, out-of-the total revenue for the first-half of INR2,900 crores, what should we exclude as the exceptional part because in other income, we have mentioned at INR168 crore. So in the revenue also, we have booked some extraordinary income or is it only the other income part?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Only revenue from operation also there for the first-six months around INR88 crores has been moved actually, revenue from the operation.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. So we need to exclude INR88 crore from INR29 crores to INR30 crores that is what you were saying.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

You have to exclude INR960 crores also in the consol level. If you are talking about the consol, then you have to exclude that INR960 crores also.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. So from INR29 crores, INR30 crores, we have to include INR960 crore.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes, and INR60 crores plus INR88 crores.

Saket Kapoor

Plus INR88 crores. Okay. So that works out to around INR1,800 crore, INR1,882 crore is the revenue profile.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Okay, you can work-out. It will do that.

Saket Kapoor

Yes, I can work-out. And we are looking — we are looking to close the year again closer to INR4,000 crores on the basis of the core work that is left to be executed.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

But on a standalone basis, definitely INR4,000 crores looks so difficult. We may grow somewhere between INR3500 crores to INR3600 crores only.

Saket Kapoor

INR3,500 crores to INR3,600 crores and the margins will be met. Yes. And the margins will be maintained, sir, the way we have done H1

K. Venkata Ram Rao

We are trying to — because our guidance is always actually between 13% to 14%. Well, we will try to — definitely we will achieve more than our guidance only.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. And sir, what are the ways to reward your investors since now you are in a — you are in comfortable position, the cash balances are there and the project completion are there and you are looking to diversify, but in a very proactive manner. So what should investor community look-forward from KNR management?

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Definitely whatever the cash is available because we have our future plan to invest in the HAM project and BOT project. So we have to generally use our cash for the growth of the company. So that’s why we have to give that good return to the investors by growing the company to the next level. So we are working towards that only. So that is the reward actually investor is going to get touched.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. So we have to look-forward in the way how the order — order pipeline works out for the HAM and the BOT segment and how we participate. That is what we should be looking-forward to.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Yes. Definitely.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. Thank you for all the elaborate answers and patiently answering them. All the best to the team.

Operator

Thank you very much. I will now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.

K. Venkata Ram Rao

Thank you all for the joining us on this call. Please reach-out to our Investor Relations Consultant Strategic Growth Advisor or ask directly so do you have any further queries. We can now close the call. Thank you.

Operator

[Operator Closing Remarks]

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