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Kanpur Plastipack Ltd (KANPRPLA) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

Kanpur Plastipack Ltd (NSE: KANPRPLA) Q3 2026 Earnings Call dated Feb. 17, 2026

Corporate Participants:

Manoj AgarwalChairman Cum Managing Director

Shashank AgarwalDeputy Managing Director

Analysts:

Aniket RedkarAnalyst

Parshva ShahAnalyst

Saket KapoorAnalyst

Dhruv MimaniAnalyst

Parth PatelAnalyst

Viraj ShahAnalyst

Praveen SharmaAnalyst

Presentation:

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the Q3 and nine month FY26 Earnings Call of Kanpur Plastipack Limited. Today we have with us Mr. Manoj Agarwal, Chairman cum Managing Director, and Mr. Shashank Agarwal, Deputy Managing Director. We will begin with opening remarks from the management followed by an interactive Q&A session. Please note that this discussion may include forward-looking statements, which should be viewed in conjunction with the risks and uncertainties that the company faces.

As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference has been recorded. I now hand over the conference call to Mr. Manoj Agarwal, Chairman cum Managing Director for opening remarks. Thank you, and over to you sir.

Manoj AgarwalChairman Cum Managing Director

Thank you. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Kanpur Plastipack’s earnings call for the third quarter and the nine month period ended 31st of December 2025. Thank you for joining us this morning for your continued engagement with the company. Q3 Financial year ’26 has been an important and defining quarter for Kanpur Plastipack. While the financial performance reflects steady growth, the real progress during the quarter has been on the strategic and structural side as we continue to reshape the company for the next phase of our sustainable growth. Globally, the industrial packaging and technical textiles industry continues to evolve. Customers today are increasingly focused on traceability, regulatory compliances, sustainability, and customized solutions rather than commoditized volumes.

In parallel, downstream industries such as automotive, infrastructure, food and consumer durables are driving demand for higher performance application specific textile solutions. These trends favor manufacturers that combine scale, engineering capability, and regulatory discipline, areas where Kanpur Plastipack has built consistent strength over the years. Export platform and global presence. Our export led model continues to remain resilient with Europe being our largest market. During the year we completed the acquisition of Valex Ventures in the UK which strategically strengthens our presence in a key regulated geography. While the near-term financial contribution is limited, the platform strengthens our long-term export positioning and provides closer market access over time. Extension into value added and B2C linked applications.

During the quarter we advanced our transition towards value added and B2C applications. While FIBC remains the backbone of our business. We are consciously expanding into premium polypropylene yarns and non-woven fabrics that find applications in automobile interiors, furniture, luggage, footwear, geotextiles, and lifestyle products. These segments are less cyclical, more specification driven, and offer superior margin visibility over time. This is not a tactical shift for us but a long-term strategic pivot.

We believe the future of manufacturing lies in combining industrial scale with consumer relevance where products are engineered for performance, compliance, and sustainability rather than price alone. Manufacturing strength and capacity building. We continue to strengthen our manufacturing and operational foundation. Progress on the FIBC capacity expansion, completion of the new warehouse for trading division, and the planned role management and automation initiatives all at Unit 3 are aimed at improving throughput efficiency and working capital discipline as volumes scale up. These initiatives reinforce our readiness for the next phase of growth while maintaining cost competitiveness.

Technology and capability development. We also advanced our technology roadmap through the incorporation of ESSEKAN Private Limited, a joint venture with Essegomma S.p.A., of Italy. This partnership enhances our access to advanced high performance yarn technology and supports our entry into premium textile applications. It strengthens our technical depth and broadens our product capabilities over time. Sustainability. Sustainability continues to remain embedded in our operational model. Nearly half of our energy requirements are now met through renewable sources and we continue to invest in recyclable product designs, zero liquid discharge processes, and traceability systems capabilities that are increasingly become non-negotiable for global and consumer facing customers.

In summary, Q3 financial year ’26 reflects steady execution across exports, product development, manufacturing capacity, and technology enhancement. We are building Kanpur Plastipack into a solution led globally relevant manufacturing platform with a balanced mix of B2B scale and B2C linked premium application.

I now invite our Deputy Managing Director Mr. Shashank Agarwal to take you through the detailed financial performance and execution parities.

Shashank AgarwalDeputy Managing Director

Thank you, and good morning, everyone. I will take you through the financial and operational performance for Q3 and nine months ended December ’25 followed by our priorities going forward. For Q3 FY26 the company reported a total income of INR195.2 crores representing a year-on-year growth of approximately 19%. EBITDA for the quarter stood at INR17.8 crore with an EBITDA margin of 9.1%. The net profit increased to INR9.2 crores up by about 23% year-on-year. The EPS standing at INR3.9. Margins remained stable sequentially and reflect a balanced product mix, steady export demand, and continued cost discipline.

Revenue excluding trading activities remains stable at approximately INR147.8 crores indicating sustained core manufacturing performance. For the nine month period, total income stood at INR543.6 crores, a growth of nearly 20%. YonY. EBITDA increased to INR49.7 crores with margins improving to 9.1% while net profit sharply rose to INR23.7 crores, reflecting improved operating leverage, tighter cost control, and a higher contribution from value added products. Exports continue to anchor our performance during Q3 FY26 exports volume were 5,900 tons while the nine month ended period was about 18,895 metric tons. In Q3, Europe accounted for 62% of Q3 exports followed by South America at 17% and North America at 15% with the balance coming from Asia, Australia, and Africa.

This diversified geographical mix provides resilience against regional demand fluctuations and supports consistent capacity utilization. Importantly, 80% to 85% of our business comes from repeat end users, reflecting long standing relationships, product liability, and compliance with global standards. This repeated model provides strong revenue visibility and reduced volatility. From an end user perspective, our revenues were well diversified across industries. Agro and food industry 44%, industrial packaging 23%, construction about 12%, agriculture 8%, automotive 7%, mining and minerals 6%. The diversified industry exposure reduces concentration risk and balances cyclical movements across sectors. The increasing share of food and automotive applications also supports higher compliance driven and value-added offerings.

From a product mix standpoint, FIBC continues to be the core growth engine in both value and volume terms. At the same time, we see a gradual traction in premium polypropylene yarns and specialized fabric solutions, particularly in fashion and automotive applications. This shift supports improved realizations and enhanced earnings quality over time. Operationally, the quarter focused on execution and readiness for scale. The new IOCL Trading Division warehouse at Bijnor Road has been completed, improving logistics efficiency and reducing dependency on rented facilities. The modern roll management system is under design and will enhance inventory control, throughput efficiency, and safety.

The construction of the building of FIBC expansion at Unit 3 is approximately 30% completed, target for completion in May ’26. This will add an incremental target of up to 6,000 tons per annum in the next five years, supporting higher conversion and margin improvement. Our greenfield technical textile non-woven project based on needle-punch technology marks a significant diversification milestone. This facility will address demand from automotive interiors, geotextiles, artificial leather, carpets, and footwear industry. It will be scaled in phased demand led manner to ensure capital efficiency and relationship management.

On the strategic side, Valex Ventures acquisition provides a direct platform in the UK and acts as a gateway to broader European markets in the times to come. The Essegomma Joint venture under ESSEKAN Private Limited strengthens our technology capabilities in high performance polypropylene yarns and supports our entry into premium textile applications. Product alignment and market development initiatives are currently underway with full swing. The initiative is structured as a long-term capability expansion aligned with our premium application roadmap. Revenue contribution will scale progressively as product approvals, market acceptance, customer awareness mature over time. It is expected to enhance the overall quality and diversification of our earnings profile.

Looking forward way ahead our strategy is built around four clear priorities. Strengthening the FIBC core through capacity expansion, higher value-added mix, and deeper penetration in regulated export markets. Second scaling B2C linked premium applications in polypropylene yarns and non-woven technical textiles through OEM partnerships and technology led differentiation. Third, disciplined resource allocation with a focus on brownfield expansion, faster payback projects, and balance sheet strength. Fourth, sustainability and technology led competitiveness ensuring long term relevance with global customers.

To conclude, Q3 and nine month FY26 demonstrate stable growth, diversified revenue streams, strong customer retention, and disciplined execution. With a balanced industry mix and increasing share of value-added applications, we are structurally strengthening the business for a long-term profitability. Thank you, we can now begin the question-and-answer session.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Aniket Redkar, an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Aniket Redkar

Hello, good morning.

Operator

Yes. You are audible.

Aniket Redkar

Hello, Am I audible?

Shashank Agarwal

Yes.

Aniket Redkar

Yeah. So sir, I have some few questions. So in terms of our nine month financials, so I can see that a nine month PAT is search to over 200% YoY with strong EBITDA expansion. So, just wanted to understand what strategic action in terms of pricing or the product mix or the geographical diversification contributed most to this turnaround. Just to get some clarity if you can elaborate on it.

Shashank Agarwal

So, you’re absolutely right. So, it was driven by favorable product mix, operating efficiency gains in the Raffia segment which is basically the FIBCs and fabric, and disciplined cost management. It also reflects the absorption of fixed cost as volumes scaled, along with the strategic exit of the lower margin CPP provision. So this together improved the overall profitability quality. Additionally, the reduced financial cost, stronger manufacturing contribution, amplified the bottom-line impact.

Aniket Redkar

Okay, okay, got it, got it. And sir, in terms of this new expansion and the new announcement which has been there, in terms of diversification into the premium PP polypropylene yarn and non-woven fabric, and can you throw some light about JV partnership and how it is going to add value to our FY27 revenue and the margins if you can give some idea.

Shashank Agarwal

So, we’re talking about the PP yarns, right?

Aniket Redkar

Yeah, yeah, correct.

Shashank Agarwal

So right now, it is at a stage where we are commissioning the project. It is absolutely into the luxury outdoor furniture premium segment. This year we expect a revenue of about INR20 crores to INR25 crores in this year, in the next financial year. Sorry. It is a slow gestation project but the market expansion can have very rapid growth once we start getting success.

Aniket Redkar

Okay, okay. And how much CapEx is applied for this? I mean?

Shashank Agarwal

So, I can clarify this last time as well. So, it’s a 50:50 joint venture which is an asset light model. The investment is only INR20 lakh from each partner as capital contribution. Because this is just a marketing company, the manufacturing will remain with Kanpur Plastipack itself.

Aniket Redkar

Okay.

Shashank Agarwal

So, the manufacturing capability will come under Kanpur Plastipack. But the sales and the technology capability will come under the joint venture.

Aniket Redkar

And sir, who are the, competitors for us? Like are we comparing with us with these Jagdamba Polymers and the Pyramid Technoplast?

Shashank Agarwal

No. So this is a totally different segment. This is recyclable, sustainable, dope-dyed luxury polypropylene yarn. So, this currently is not produced in India at all.

Aniket Redkar

Okay, okay. And sir just one last question. In terms of the industry trend which has been going on. So, with India’s flexible packaging market is I’ve seen that projected to grow very fast near the double-digit CAGR. So, where does the management see the largest addressable opportunity in terms of the FMCG, pharma or the industrial sector?

Shashank Agarwal

So, I mean the FMCG and pharma sector in India we are not focused on that. Neither the industry nor the segment because we are primarily into exports as far as packaging is concerned. But yes, you are right. The growth is there and we do see in pockets there are small demands that are coming up which were not there before.

Aniket Redkar

Okay, okay. And sir, any new development in terms of new product that we are coming.

Shashank Agarwal

So, we are constantly innovating in the FIBC segment. There are — it’s a very customized, innovative design process that happens continuously. There is not a specific product that I would like to speak about. But right now, the entire focus in FIBC is to be customer centric and driven so that we can provide customized designs to them to increase their efficiency.

Aniket Redkar

Okay. Okay. Okay. And sir, if you can give me a breakup of the domestic and export revenue.

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah. Just a moment. So, quarter three exports were about INR103 crore and domestic was about INR70 crores.

Aniket Redkar

Okay, Got it. thank you, sir. This is from my side, and all the best for the future.

Shashank Agarwal

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Parshva from HDFC Bank. Please go ahead.

Parshva Shah

Yeah. Hi sir, good morning.

Shashank Agarwal

Good morning.

Parshva Shah

I wanted to understand the rational for basically the margin difference between your FIBC product and your PP woven and the textile segment. The EBITDA margin currently and going forward, how this EBITDA margin would be shaping in probably FY27 guidance.

Shashank Agarwal

So, as you must have seen, the blended EBITDA is about 9%. The manufacturing EBITDA is at about 10.5%. Within the 10.5%, if you break it down into all the four product segments that we are into, which is FIBC, PP woven fabric, commodity Multifilament yarn and UV MasterBatch, the EBITDA margins of fabric is about at 7%. Multifilament is also at about 7% which makes FIBC go at about 12.5% to 13.5%. So that is the reason why we continuously are changing our capacity from fabric to FIBC. And over the next couple of years, you will see that change in the blended margin as well.

Parshva Shah

Got it. And right now, FIBC is how much composition of our total business?

Shashank Agarwal

One second. So, this year in terms of the manufacturing turnover, it would be about 50%, 54% of the manufacturing.

Parshva Shah

54%. And going forward also are we like going forward, this is expected to increase to what, 80%, 90% level FIBC contribution?

Shashank Agarwal

So FIBC is for 54%, fabric is 28%, Multifilament is 10% and others are 8%. [Speech Overlap] So yeah, I’m answering that. So, MFI and others will remain at 10% and 8%. This fabric 28% will become about 10% and this 54% will become about 70% to 75%.

Parshva Shah

70% to 75%. Got it. Yeah. And FIBC will always be focused towards export only or are we planning to double down in the domestic segment?

Shashank Agarwal

So out of the total sale of FIBC, 90% is exports, 10% is domestic. We will always remain at that ratio in the next three, four years.

Parshva Shah

Got it. Understood. Understood. Any upcoming CapEx, plan or inorganic acquisition plans that we have?

Shashank Agarwal

Yes. So, there is a INR99 crore CapEx that we announced last quarter. It has multiple sections. So, it has a phase CapEx program which includes 6,000 tons of FIBC capacity expansion over the next five years, in a new building in unit 3 itself. So, this will help us changing the fabric capacity to FIBC capacity, because the current utilization levels in code divisions remain healthy, justified and for expansion. Secondly, there is a role — modern role management system that we are building. This will enhance yield control, reduce wastage, inventory management, and the time it takes to fetch inventory.

This should be completed by about July this year. The third portion of it is the technical textiles, non-woven needle-punch, that would go into the automotive segment, artificial leather footwear, geotextiles, and filtration fabrics. So that is at about INR55 crores.

Parshva Shah

Okay, got it. And any inorganic acquisition plans?

Shashank Agarwal

Not at the moment.

Parshva Shah

Not at the moment. Okay, I think that was it from my side. Thank you, sir. Yeah,

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Saket Kapoor from Kapoor and Company. Please go ahead.

Saket Kapoor

Hello. Hello.

Manoj Agarwal

Yes, we can hear you.

Saket Kapoor

Yeah, Namaskar sir.

Manoj Agarwal

Namaskar ji.

Saket Kapoor

Sir firstly if you could just give us some understanding of how with the tariff part of the story being put to rest and the current tariff for US being settled at 18%, if you could just give us some color, how has the business environment and the pillars you can share with the investing community?

Shashank Agarwal

So thank you Saket for the question. First of all, I do not think it is at rest until it is really at rest. So, although 18% has been announced, but what has been formally taking place at the ground level is that there is 25% tariff instead of 18% for the time being until the 18% executive order comes in. It is comes with great relief to the industry because there was a migration that was happening from India to other countries. So that will completely stop in the short term and the medium term. In addition to this, what it does it, it boosts demand in other countries as well which are dependent on US.

So, we do see renewed demand coming from Africa and Europe who are exporting to the US as well. Because it’s a positive sign from the US government that they are making tariffs flexible. The EU FTA is also an extremely important point that has come in because from a long-term sustainability of the business in India with the 0% tariff into EU, India will remain the most competitive across other emerging manufacturing countries. So it’s both the US tariff deal and EU FTA are extremely good things for the long term and the medium-term future.

Saket Kapoor

Sir, can you give us some more color on the order booking scenario? I think so when we were speaking post quarter two con call you did alluded to the risk that were pertaining with the extension of 50% tariff affecting the dynamic. Post that I think so even the crude oil prices have also inched up. So, I think so. There must be some inflationary impact also on the RM. So, in this context if you could just explain firstly the order booking scenario, and the impact of the higher crude prices.

Shashank Agarwal

So, the order book remained extremely stable, nothing to be worried about. Neither it is too long nor it is too short. It is absolutely where we are comfortable. In addition to this, there has been heavy shortage of jute in India. So, the government of India has diluted the Jute Packaging Act which now allows polypropylene woven sacks to be used in food grain[Phonetic] packaging. So, this has instilled a short-term boost and demand in the domestic market. So, that has helped the order book significantly as well. On the raw material side, yes, you are right like all other commodities and crude oil has also gone up.

Polymer has also gone up by about 10% to 15%. But as you know in our industry this gets passed on to the customer. So, there is no inflation risk from that standpoint.

Saket Kapoor

Okay, I was pointing when I said this was because the reason, I really found that for the purchase stock in trade for this quarter was significantly higher. So, if you could just explain the the nature of the same. And sir secondly, export volumes were lower, I think so. The tonnage was 6,600 for Q2 and it was lower by I think so 10% for Q3 at 5,928. But margins have expanded. So, if you could just explain [Foreign Speech] going ahead, what can we expect?

Shashank Agarwal

So, this time the October and November months were a little special because there were lot of holidays on weekdays and the number of working days were a little lower. Because it’s a labor-intensive industry, we are dependent on manpower, and we saw that this time the availability of manpower had significantly gone down due to the festive cena in the marriage season in this quarter that led to a lower production figure itself. Also, we saw some challenges in the month of October related to power in our city. This also led to little bit of production challenges.

But yes, you are right there was a shift in the product mix where FIBCs as a percentage went up which is our stated goal that we will continue to do margin maximization. But the margins are also improved because of weak rupee against dollar and euro. So, both these things put together we saw the results being what they were

Saket Kapoor

And on the trading part of the?

Shashank Agarwal

So, trading has been used as an opportunity whenever it comes. It is not our core activity, but if it helps us to get something in the contribution, we continue to do that because it helps us reduce our overall raw material cost for our manufacturing as well. So, sometimes it will go up, sometimes it will go down. It will not remain consistent.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. Sir why I was trying to understand this aspect was you have earlier in the previous call alluded to the fact that from H1 revenue [Foreign Speech]. That is what the trajectory has been. So once we take this when we are working with that number, we have to take the ex-trading. I think so. [Speech Overlap]

Shashank Agarwal

So yes. So, 15% was just a guidance. It could be 10%, it could be 17% depending on the raw material rates and percentage utilization of different divisions. But yes, Q4 will be better than Q3 in terms of the manufacturing turnover.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. Sir just to put things more into perspective I think so. We have been participating in event speaking meeting clients as being done by the postponing of con call twice. So, in fact one. So, what is the filler exactly from this participation and your clients visit and even the Japans part of the story which you have been speaking for the last two quarters. Any breakthrough in that aspect if you could just give some color. And sir, as you were speaking about the non-availability of the workers, even our employee cost on a consolidated basis has gone up by INR2.5 crore for this quarter at INR20 crore.

So, what explains this? Is it the labor code impact that you have done? Because no mention there in the notes.

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah. So, first of all, you are right that because there was this exhibition plus India during that period 5th to 10th of February, we could not have an investor call, and two days back the investor call had to be postponed due to couple of serious customers coming over to Kanpur. So, apologies about that. But yes, there has been very strong response during PlastIndia and we will continue to have these customer interactions now in Tech Textile in Germany in April and then interpack in May, and we will be exhibiting in Tokyo pack in October. The Japan business currently has taken a backseat due to the extreme demand of Europe, and Japan will continue to happen at its slow pace as I’ve been continuously saying.

When it will take off and how it will take off time will decide. Once then opportunity gets created and some space gets created from the Chinese and the Vietnamese supply sources. About the employee cost I think we will have to clarify it in a better sense in the next investor meet or the presentation. But mostly this employee cost has gone up due to two reasons. One is the annual inflation that goes up. And secondly there has been a higher percentage of FIBC production compared to fabric. Also, there have been some provisions that have been taken due to the new wage code.

Saket Kapoor

Right sir. If time. If the monitor allow, can I put forward few more or shall I join the queue? Madam?

Operator

Sorry for that. You may rejoin the queue please for more questions.

Saket Kapoor

I am joining. Rejoining the queue sir for my follow ups.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Dhruv Mimani from Niveza Investments. Please go ahead.

Dhruv Mimani

Hello.

Operator

Yeah. Please go ahead.

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah, we can hear you.

Dhruv Mimani

Yeah. Sir so my question was regarding the trading. Is trading included in the exports you mentioned that we are doing currently?

Shashank Agarwal

Sorry, could you repeat your question?

Dhruv Mimani

Is trading included in the exports or is it done domestically?

Shashank Agarwal

Trading is only domestic it is not in exports.

Dhruv Mimani

Okay. And sir my follow up question to that is why was there a loss in the trading division this quarter?

Shashank Agarwal

There is no loss in the trading division in this quarter.

Dhruv Mimani

Okay, sir because. Okay, sir and then the following question. Okay, sir that’s all I have for now. Thank you.

Shashank Agarwal

Just to clarify, the trading division. Sir there is a quarterly profit in the trading division. Yeah. Hello.

Dhruv Mimani

Yeah sir, the result uploaded. I can see just say we have done a revenue of INR47 crores from the trading division. Correct?

Shashank Agarwal

Correct.

Dhruv Mimani

And when we see the segment result, we can see it is a negative 3.53% from trading.

Shashank Agarwal

84.39% positive.

Dhruv Mimani

I’m talking consolidated revenue. It’s on page number.

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah.

Dhruv Mimani

Consolidated revenue. I can see it is a negative 3.53%.

Shashank Agarwal

Just one second. Yeah, correct.

Dhruv Mimani

Yeah, so that’s what I wanted to know. How can there be a loss from trading division?

Shashank Agarwal

Let me come back on this please. I do not have a ready answer on this. Okay.

Dhruv Mimani

And sir what’s the reason for the increase [Indecipherable] division from INR12 crores to INR47 crores?

Shashank Agarwal

So, it’s opportunity driven. Completely opportunity driven. So there was an opportunity in the market to purchase and sell. Because there was an arbitrage because of our relationship with the suppliers and our market information, we could purchase a higher quantity, and there was an arbitrage in the market to sell the product.

Dhruv Mimani

Okay, thank you. And my last question would be what’s the current EBITDA from exports and domestic?

Shashank Agarwal

So, the blended obviously we know the exports EBITDA is around 11.5% to 12% and domestic is at about 6.5%.

Dhruv Mimani

Okay, thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Parth Patel from Patel Investments. Please go ahead. Mr. Patel, your line is unmuted. Please proceed.

Parth Patel

Hello? Am I audible?

Shashank Agarwal

Yes, you’re audible.

Parth Patel

Yeah, thank you. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Sir, I just had a couple of questions. The first one, I think it was a little bit covered by some other analysts. But I just wanted more clarity that if you see that our contribution from Europe this quarter was about 60% and now that the US free trade deal and everything has come in, even the ESPR also has come in. So how does this affect us as a company?

Shashank Agarwal

Sir, it affects us very positively. Europe remains our stronghold and the EU FTA will take in the next calendar year. So, it will. So, Europe will remain at the focus. But whatever new capacities are coming into FIBC, they will be serviced to USA. So, it’s an extremely positive sign for the company.

Parth Patel

Got it. And are we hedging the revenues that we get from these entities abroad?

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah, I’ll let my father answer that yes.

Manoj Agarwal

Yes, if you follow a specific agent policy for our foreign exchange exposures and we have access to two consultants who keep advising this. It is reviewed on a weekly basis every Saturday on our net exposures in dollar, euro and pound. And then we take action on that. But yes, we do hedge periodically.

Parth Patel

Got it. That, is very comfortable for us to hear.

Manoj Agarwal

Yeah, it is monitored on every Saturday.

Parth Patel

God, that, does sound very good to us. And final, but little bit on the CapEx so I believe we have about 6,000 metric tons of capacity for FIBC expansion that we are planning over the next four, five years. So, I just wanted to know what is the total CapEx outlay that we have for the same? By what time will we reach the total capacity like the maximum capacity utilization for the same?

Shashank Agarwal

So, the CapEx only for the FIBC portion is only INR20 crores. So, this will take four years to five years to come up with a target of about 1,200 tons addition every year that will be done. Why it is so slow is also because it needs market development exercise because as you know that 90% of the business is a repeat business. So, to break the barrier of market penetration at the right value, it takes time, and we want to go very step by step in a stable manner. So, this will take four to five years.

Parth Patel

Got it. And this INR20 crores is overall or every year INR20 crores?

Shashank Agarwal

No, no, overall INR20 crores. Out of this INR20 crores, about INR12 crores is in the building itself.

Parth Patel

Oh, so that is pretty cheap for FIBC.

Shashank Agarwal

Because we already have the extrusion and the weaving capacity. This is debottlenecking of certain sections. Not everything is coming up. It’s more of the debottlenecking.

Parth Patel

Got it, got it. That makes more sense. And so, what will be the capacity enhanced after that?

Shashank Agarwal

So, we will move from a. So, the current capacity is at about 18,000 tons. So, this will become 24,000 tons by the end of the expansion.

Parth Patel

Okay, got it. And this one final question, if I can squeeze it in, I just wanted to know that the new Gajner Road warehouse that for the logistic cost and capital at working capital, how will it impact us?

Shashank Agarwal

So, from a working capital perspective it will really not make a change, but more from a change of operating expenses because this is an automated warehouse. The retrieval time, the quality of storage, the safety standards that are set and from a wastage perspective.

Parth Patel

Got it. So logistically it will become much better and less efficient.

Shashank Agarwal

Yes, absolutely.

Parth Patel

Makes sense. Sir that is, that was all from my side. I’ll join the queue again for any follow up questions, and I just want to wish you all the best for the future. Thank you so much.

Shashank Agarwal

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Viraj Shah from JJ Investments. Please go ahead.

Viraj Shah

Hello.

Operator

Mr. Shah. Yes, you are Audible.

Viraj Shah

Yeah. Hi. So, first of all, good morning. Congrats sir. Congratulations on the strong Q3 performance, and the successful incorporation of the JV in January. I had a few questions. Firstly, I joined a little late. I don’t know if our questions have been answered previously. Sir my question would be, could you break down the total CapEx that we have specified inputted for the. Specifically, for the jv? I am looking for a split between equity contribution and debt?

Shashank Agarwal

This question is pertaining to the JV, right?

Viraj Shah

Yeah. Correct.

Shashank Agarwal

There is INR20 lakh that has been invested into the JV.

Viraj Shah

Okay. There’s no debt.

Shashank Agarwal

There is no debt.

Viraj Shah

Okay, sir, noted. Sir next question would be, how would you describe the competitive landscape in this market? Are we entering in a crowded space? Do you see a gap? Or any high-quality manufacturers like yourselves in the [Indecipherable]?

Shashank Agarwal

So, it is not a crowded space at all. Rather it’s a very novel and niche space. Currently it will substitute imports that are coming on from Europe. And secondly, because of the availability of this yarn, the. This market will expand. Currently this yarn is being imported with a longer lead time and at a much higher price, once we are there in the market because the price will also be attractive, and the material will be available locally. It will enhance the market size itself. Currently it’s a niche product. Yeah.

Viraj Shah

Got it, got it. One last question, sir. How are we specifically different [Indecipherable] materials? How are they specifically differentiable from other established suppliers? You know, what are, what is our USP serving the industry again?

Shashank Agarwal

About ESSEKAN can, right?

Viraj Shah

Sorry. Yeah.

Shashank Agarwal

So. First, it’s made out of polypropylene. So, it’s about 30% lower weight compared to polyester. Second, it is non-toxic to the environment and to the human body because it is inert. It is polypropylene. Third, it is 100% recyclable. But polyester with PVC coating is not recyclable. Fourth, it is meant for outdoor furniture means that it can last much longer. So, a combination of all these things today is not present in the market.

Viraj Shah

Okay, got it. Sir is there any cost efficiency in this? Are we advantages related to cost?

Shashank Agarwal

It’s a value creation product. It is not a cost optimizing product. So, it is a more of a luxurious value creation.

Viraj Shah

Noted sir. Got it. Thank you so much sir. This answers all my questions. Thank you so much. Yeah, congratulation. All the best.

Shashank Agarwal

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Praveen Sharma, an individual investor. Please go ahead.

Praveen Sharma

Hello. Am I audible?

Operator

Yes, you are.

Praveen Sharma

Yeah. Hi, good afternoon, Shashank. Congratulations on excellent results in Q3. And my first question is at slightly higher level. What I see is basically India is a leader in FIBC and FIBC bad. Now what is the moat India has against countries like Bangladesh? My question is that labor there is very cheap. And we have seen that in the recent deal between Bangladesh and US they said that they will have a zero duty to import raw materials. So, what prevents them from actually entering this particular space and putting up capacities, buying raw materials, PP granules from us and putting a facility there. This is my first question. And the second question is, in recent one, two years, generally FIBC segment in India, market in India, companies in India are doing very well. sir why? What is the tailwind in this particular sector? Of course, the companies like Kanpur Plastipack are doing extremely well within the segment. But in general, there is a tailwind which is seen. So, what is the reason for this one two years? last one and a half years, 15 years, suddenly there is a decent amount of profitable growth in this particular sector. These two are not.

Shashank Agarwal

Praveenji, thank you for asking both the questions. First, Bangladesh. So, Bangladesh. So, this product is not only about being manpower intensive, it is also being very supervision and management intensive, in addition to supply chain management. Bangladesh inherently has a disadvantage because it does not have the raw material. And also, the shipping ports are not the most efficient in terms of the routings that are available. It’s a very time sensitive product. And so that’s one. Secondly, most of the end users are Fortune 500, Fortune 1500 companies. Unfortunately, the labor practices sometimes becomes the critical point where India is able to score much higher as a country.

Thirdly, it is also extremely real estate intensive. So, across all our units put together, we are about 10 lakh to 11 lakh square feet. Now Bangladesh somehow does not have real estate available with them. That is also very big disadvantage. The availability of engineers, management graduates to supervise these operations is also extremely poor in Bangladesh. And the final thing is that the entrepreneurship that is there in Bangladesh is driven more by textiles rather than industrial packaging. So, textiles is a far more. It’s a customized product, but it’s a standard products. So, there is no mass customization in textiles.

And that is how they are tuned. We are more tuned to mass customization. So, an average order length only runs on our line for maybe six to nine hours as against a textile product that could run for maybe 20 days. So that is why it becomes extremely management intensive. So, this is the reason why India has been able to consistently do better than Bangladesh and Vietnam both. Regarding the question of the duty structure of India versus Bangladesh, Bangladesh had a zero percent duty in EU which India will have from next year. So, this will become a very big moat. from next year onwards because today Bangladesh has about 12% of the EU imports.

All the US imports are only booked at 6%. So, the commodity and the lowest segment of the product might move to Bangladesh in USA where inventory is not a challenge, lead time is not a challenge, the quality consciousness is not a challenge, the social audit rules are not so stringent. But the higher segment, the medium segment will still remain in India and Turkey. Regarding the second question of the tailwinds in the FIBC industry, so the business is getting more and more complex as the time is proceeding because rather than complexity improving to simplification, it is going on becoming more stringent and more complex.

A due to the unavailability of people, trained people to work, B due to the migration of the customers who used to buy from Mexico and Turkey to India. So, more complex bags are coming in to the country. and the total global packaging space itself is growing at a rapid pace. So overall that is the reason why tailwinds are there with the country. And the rupee has been depreciating as well.

Praveen Sharma

Okay, okay, thank you. That answers me.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Parshva from HDFC Bank. Please go ahead.

Parshva Shah

Hi sir. So just wanted to understand that like our FIBC is right now 90% export and 10% domestic. What are the margin? How is the margin between both export and domestic?

Shashank Agarwal

It is similar.

Parshva Shah

It is similar only.

Shashank Agarwal

Yeah.

Parshva Shah

Got it. So, what are the domestic challenges via what is the reason? We are not very much focusing on domestic and focused on export only. When so much geopolitical changes are happening globally, why not focus on domestic? So just wanted to understand the domestic part of it.

Shashank Agarwal

So, the answer in two sections. First is that the industry produces in India about 45,000 tons per per month of FIBCs. And the domestic market is at about 6,000 tons to 7,000 tons which is about 15%. So, we are not way off from the industry average of percentage of export to domestic. That is first section. The second part is that the domestic industry has three segments. One is the highest segment of food, pharma and carbon black. There is second segment which is of agri and chemical exports. And then there is a third segment of mining, petrochemicals, and commodity.

We are present in the second segment and the first segment. We are not present in the third segment. The third segment itself is the majority of the industry itself. That is at a much lower margin.

Parshva Shah

Understood. Got it. And so, when we say first and the second segment that would comprise of how much sir? 20%, 25% of the entire industry.

Shashank Agarwal

Yes, about 20% of the entire Indian FIBC industry. Yes.

Parshva Shah

FIBC industry. Third you said is mining, petrochemical?

Shashank Agarwal

Correct. And commodities like cement, building materials.

Parshva Shah

Got it. Those would be standardized bags basically?

Shashank Agarwal

They are not only standardized but they are also extremely low requirement of certifications and audits.

Parshva Shah

Okay, understood. I think that it’s from my side. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Saket Kapoor from Kapoor and company. Please go ahead.

Saket Kapoor

Yes sir. I just put forward the questions. Firstly sir, you did alluded to the fact of raw jute crisis and that may emerging as an opportunity for us. So, in terms of volumes uptick that we may expect from this going ahead if you could just give some color. And then previously in the last call you did mentioned about the benefits from the Valex acquisition would be there for in quarter three. So how much have Valex contributed in terms of the bottom line, and thirdly about the Italian JV sir which you were just during answering to other participant. So, when will we start booking revenues from this JV sir? These are my set of questions.

Shashank Agarwal

So, see ESSEKAN will start booking revenue from next financial year. Valex, I think it has been misunderstood because we never said that there will be a significant increase in either the revenue or the profitability at Valex Ventures in quarter three. It’s a more of a directional thing. It will take couple of years to see any significant results because the end user marketing and B2C relationship takes time to break in. So, the team is there, experimentation is happening of what is the right business model to scale up there. And regarding the first question, so in terms of volume I would say that in this quarter about 20% to 30% of a volume would go to the government product.

Saket Kapoor

Okay, that is the FIBC segment?

Shashank Agarwal

No, so it’s not FIBC. It’s PP woven seg.

Saket Kapoor

Okay, so then that would be a margin dilution sir, for this quarter?

Shashank Agarwal

It will not be margin dilution. It will be in a similar margin range, because its opportunity driven. It’s a one-time opportunity driven thing.

Saket Kapoor

Okay and then for the tonnage from the FIBC segment that will take a backseat since I think so there is only the.

Shashank Agarwal

So, fabric. Fabric will take a backseat. FIBC will remain as is.

Saket Kapoor

Okay sir. In nutshell as you mentioned early only earlier in the call that we may be expecting better performance of both operationally and financially for quarter four versus quarter three. And these are the factors which you just alluded to. So that understanding is correct sir?

Shashank Agarwal

Broadly, yes.

Saket Kapoor

Okay. If I’m missing anything else then please add to it.

Shashank Agarwal

You got everything

Saket Kapoor

Okay right sir. Thank you, sir. And all the best to the team and pranam to Manoji also sir. Not spoken this time.

Manoj Agarwal

Thank you, Saket ji. I was listening. Everything has been done so well.

Saket Kapoor

Thank you, sir.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that was the last question for today. I now hand over the conference to Mr. Shashank Agarwal Deputy Managing Director for closing comments. Over to you sir.

Shashank Agarwal

I would like to thank everyone who has joined the call and took out this time. We will come up with a couple of clarifications that have been asked and remain unanswered. Thank you for joining in today.

Operator

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