JK Tyre & Industries Limited (NSE: JKTYRE) Q2 2025 Earnings Call dated Nov. 06, 2024
Corporate Participants:
Anshuman Singhania — Managing Director
Arun Kumar Bajoria — Director & President (International)
Sanjeev Aggarwal — Chief Financial Officer
Anuj Kathuria — President (India)
Analysts:
Chirag Jain — Analyst
Amar Kant Gaur — Analyst
Abhishek Jain — Analyst
Mitul Shah — Analyst
Aditya Akhani — Analyst
Amit Agarwal — Analyst
Mayur Milak — Analyst
Basudeb Banerjee — Analyst
Presentation:
Operator
Ladies and gentlemen, good day, and welcome to Q2 FY ’25 Earnings Conference Call of JK Tyre & Industries Limited hosted by Emkay Global Financial Services.
[Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Chirag Jain from Emkay Global Financial Services. Thank you, and over to you, sir.
Chirag Jain — Analyst
Thanks, Nia. Good afternoon, everyone. On behalf of Emkay Global, would like to welcome you all to the 2Q FY ’25 earnings conference call of JK Tyres & Industries Limited.
Today, we have with us the senior management team represented by Mr. Anshuman Singhania, Managing Director; Mr. Arun K. Bajoria, Director and President, International Business; Mr. Anuj Kathuria, President, India Operations; Mr. Sanjeev Aggarwal, Chief Financial Officer; and Mr. Mr. A K. Kinra, Financial Advisor.
We’ll begin the call with opening comments from the management team, followed by the Q&A session. Over to you, sir.
Anshuman Singhania — Managing Director
Yeah. Thank you. Very good afternoon to everyone, and welcome to JK Tyre Q2 FY ’25 earnings con call. On behalf of the entire JK family, I would like to extend my warm wishes for a very happy and a prosperous festive season 2024.
To begin, I would like to share key performance highlights of the Indian economy and the auto sector, followed by Q2 business performance. India continues to be the fastest-growing economy despite geopolitical uncertainty. Few [Phonetic] factors like strong growth in manufacturing, robust credit growth and GST collection, rural economy rebounding and stronger exports in service and high-value manufacturing has strengthened India’s position further. We firmly believe that India will keep delivering superior performance, which would strengthen its position in the global economy.
The automobile industry is one of the key drivers of growth in the Indian economy. However, the performance was mixed bag during the quarter. While the commercial vehicle segment de-grew by high single digit on account of extended monsoon and moderation in infrastructure spend post general election, passenger vehicle segment sustained on a high base. Two, three-wheelers witnessed robust growth of more than 12% in quarter two.
JK Tyre, being a CV major, the OE sales was impacted by the drop in CV production during the quarter. However, for the domestic market, overall, the volumes were flattish over the previous quarter. As we move into the second half of the year, we expect the demand to improve, driven by festive season, resumption of government infrastructure spend and normalization of construction, industrial and mining activities.
Further premiumization trend shall continue across sectors, including auto-led by increasing aspiration, changing lifestyle and greater availability of ease of finance. Domestic passenger car radial has significantly improved over the previous quarter in the replacement market.
Now, coming to the Q2 business performance. Overall revenue were recorded at INR3,643 crores as compared to INR3,905 crores in the corresponding quarter last year. Overall domestic market volume contracted in high-single-digits, primarily driven by the OEM segment.
On export front, volume remained flat on a Y-o-Y basis, but showed sequential improvement in high-single-digits. Export demand continues to recover from all markets like American Continent, Asia, Middle East; introduction of new products and expansion of footprint in our own target markets. We are confident that this growth will sustain in the second half despite continuing supply chain issues and uncertainty in the geopolitical scenario.
On the margin front, EBITDA margin contracted sequentially due to high raw material cost, which increased by approximately 6% to 7% compared to Q1. We have been actively working to mitigate this impact through judicious pricing actions and product mix enrichment, coupled with operational efficiencies. Presently, we are witnessing a correction in RM prices.
During the quarter, we further expanded our market reach in the replacement segment by adding 23 brand shops, 40-plus fleet customers, two large accounts in the mobility business. The ongoing capacity expansion programs in TBR, PCR and all steel light truck radial tires for an aggregate cost of INR1,400 crores is progressing well.
In our continued efforts to strengthen our brand visibility, JK Tyre has been recognized as an Icon Brand of India 2024 by The Economic Times for the fifth time. At JK Tyre, we have embraced digitalization as a strategic catalyst to enhance operational efficiencies across functions, including manufacturing, marketing and sales. By integrating digital and predictive technologies with AI, we are accelerating the innovation and product development.
It is indeed a matter of pride that JK Tyre has been honored with the prestigious Mahatma Award 2024 for the CSR Excellence. JK Tyre is a green company and it is committed to reducing carbon intensity by 50% by 2030. Sustainability is at the core of its activity, be it manufacturing excellence or development of the next-generation technological advanced product.
Now, I would request Bajoria ji to talk about the performance of JK Tornel Mexico.
Arun Kumar Bajoria — Director & President (International)
Thank you, MD sir. I will now share the highlights of Mexican economy and JK Tornel Mexico for the second quarter of financial year ’25. Mexico’s economic activity slowed in the second quarter of 2024, following the establishment of the new government. GDP growth decelerated to an annualized rate of 0.8%, down from 1.1% in the previous quarter, and employment growth rates also slowed down.
Peso weakened against the dollar, which should support exports in the coming quarters. The IMF projects Mexico’s GDP growth forecast for 2025 at 1.5%. The positive development for the Mexican tire industry is that the Mexican government imposed antidumping duties at 32% on imported passenger car and light truck tires from China effective 1st October, 2024. This move is expected to provide a significant boost to JK Tornel’s domestic sales of PCR tires.
Now, coming to quarterly financial performance. JK Tornel Mexico registered quarterly sales of MXN1,342 million, which is equivalent to INR593 crores, lower by about 8% on year-on-year basis, on constant currency terms. EBITDA margins sustained at 8%, that is MXN106 million, equivalent to INR47 crores. However, due to depreciation of Mexican pesos, which is about minus 10% vis-a-vis the Indian rupees, the overall revenue and profitability were further impacted in Indian currency.
During the quarter, raw material cost has increased significantly by 11% over previous quarter. To offset this impact, we have taken strategic price increase across categories and could increase our net sales realization by about 9%. In an effort to boost sales of passenger radial tires, 18 new SKUs in the premium category have been introduced to the market with plans underway to launch over 14 more premium SKUs by December 2024. These efforts have resulted in increasing PCR capacity utilization to nearly 90%.
JK Tornel is onboarding new customers in the mobility and mass merchandise segments. Recently, it has started supplying premium SKUs to Walmart Mexico.
Now, I request Mr. Sanjeev Aggarwal, our CFO, to brief about the financial performance of the quarter.
Sanjeev Aggarwal — Chief Financial Officer
Thank you. Thank you very much, sir. So, let me briefly share the key highlights for financial front with you all for Q2 FY ’25. The first one is the consolidated revenue for Q2 FY ’25 were recorded at INR3,643 crores as compared to INR3,905 crores in the corresponding quarter last year. EBITDA margins during the quarter were recorded at 12.2%, vis-a-vis 14.1% in the previous quarter, contracted by 195 basis points due to higher raw material costs, primarily driven by significant rise in natural rubber prices while the crude oil prices remained moderated at present.
Profitability at EBITDA level was reported at INR443 crores as against INR597 crores in Q2 last year. On quarterly basis, cash profit stood at INR323 crore as compared to INR488 crores in Q2 FY ’24. Profit after tax stood at INR144 crores. Consolidated capacity utilization for the quarter was 83%. The utilization of radial tire capacities remained strong, ranging between 85% to 90% for radial segments at present. Consolidated exports stood at INR693 crores, up by 6% on Y-o-Y basis.
Subsidiary companies; Cavendish Industries Limited and JK Tornel Mexico, continued to perform well and have contributed significantly to the revenues and profitability on consolidated basis. Cavendish posted a top line of INR957 crores with EBITDA at INR123 crores, registering an operating profit margin of 12.9%.
Earnings per share on consolidated basis stood at INR4.93 per share in second quarter. Return ratios in terms of ROCE and ROE are within the mid-to-high teens range and are expected to improve going forward. Net debt stood at INR4,340 crores as on 30th of September ’24 as against INR3,704 crores in March ’24. The debt levels have risen due to increased working capital borrowings, primarily related to a strategic buildup of key raw material inventory.
For FY ’23, ’24, the company paid a total dividend of INR4.50 per share, including an interim dividend of INR1 per share paid earlier, and the final dividend of INR3.50 per share was paid during the quarter. On September 16, the Board of Directors of JK Tyre and CIL respectively approved the scheme of amalgamation, which involves the merger of Cavendish Industries Limited into the parent company, JK Tyre. The merger aims at synergizing the benefits, simplified structures, unlocking value for the shareholders and consolidate tire operations into one single entity.
As per the swap ratio worked out, the shareholders of CIL will receive 92 shares of JK Tyre for every 100 shares they hold in CIL, in Cavendish Industries Limited. The proposed merger will go through several approval processes and is expected to be completed within the next 10 to 12 months’ time. And the leverage ratios, the net debt to equity and net debt to EBITDA remained within the comfortable zone of 0.9 times and 2.15 times as on 30th September, respectively. The balance sheet and the return ratios of the company have been within the healthy levels.
Now we open this session for questions and answers.
Questions and Answers:
Operator
Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Amar Kant Gaur from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.
Amar Kant Gaur
Yeah, thanks. Thanks for taking my question. Sir, I had two questions. One was regarding the growth that we have seen in the OEM segment quarter-over-quarter, what is contributing to that? Because OEMs — most of the OEMs, we haven’t seen a great growth in the production sequentially. And a commensurate decline we are seeing in the replacement segment when sequentially, we typically see an improvement in the second quarter. So could you shed some light on those numbers please?
Anshuman Singhania
Yeah. In the OEM, in terms of the segment; here, CV market has definitely — the truck, especially the MHCV, has shown a decline. And that has been quite sluggish in H1. Then, in the passenger car, there has been growth in H1. There has also been a growth high double digit in the two, three wheeler as well in the segment. So, that is for the OEM.
Amar Kant Gaur
Sir, I’m talking about sequentially from the numbers that I have, there’s about INR100 crores of addition, almost 15%, 16% addition in your revenues quarter-over-quarter, when the growth in two-wheelers might not be that great, maybe around low-single-digit, 6% to 8% kind of growth there, and PVs would be largely flat and CVs will be lower. So, would that mean that we have gotten into more OEMs, certain models where we are present have done relatively better?
Anshuman Singhania
No. So in terms of the numbers, for us, there has been a degrowth in the OEM when it comes to truck. We are the largest — we have got impacted because we are the largest participant in the OEM in the CV segment, one. There has been a flattish for LCV and SCV in terms of the OEM this things. And in the passenger car, we are — it has been a minor growth for us in terms of volumes, and we have been flattish in the two, three-wheelers. This is on — from the sequential quarter.
Amar Kant Gaur
Okay. And regarding replacement, sir?
Anshuman Singhania
I’m sorry?
Amar Kant Gaur
Replacement. Replacement segment.
Anshuman Singhania
Yeah, replacement, we are — from the corresponding quarter, we have grown in terms of 3% in volumes, and even on the sequential, overall volumes have grown.
Amar Kant Gaur
Okay, okay. Okay, thanks for that. My second question relates to the pricing actions that we are seeing in the market and the competitive intensity that has been relatively high in certain segments and not in others. So, could you please elaborate the kind of competitive intensity you are seeing in the market as far as pricing is concerned, and which segments are the most competitive, and how much price hikes have you taken in individual segments over the last couple of quarters?
Anshuman Singhania
So, you see, we have been able to take about 3% to 3.5% in H1. And in various categories, there are obviously various different level of price increase. So we’ve been — also, we’ve been — we’ve also got price increase by the OEM as well, apart from the aftermarket.
Amar Kant Gaur
Okay. And regarding the competitive intensity, if you can comment.
Anshuman Singhania
It is — the market is dynamic. Each company is on their own to decide about the pricing strategy. So, we are in a very competitive environment.
Amar Kant Gaur
See, why I’m asking that is, because in the past, a lot of your competitors have been quite vocal in terms of being very prudent on price increases and letting — protecting the margins. But lately, margins have come under pressure quite a lot, and we have seen some of the competitors also resorting to some pricing actions to protect market share rather than the margins. So is that something that you are seeing in the market as well or that is something you believe that is maybe a shorter-term phenomenon, and we might see more price competitiveness coming through going forward?
Anshuman Singhania
See, actually, it’s not only about the competition, but it is also about the ability of the market to absorb the increase. So we are working on that. As you’re also aware that the freight rates have not been going up to that extent. So therefore, we found that the market, especially in the replacement market, the opportunity to pass on was not there. We have taken increases. I’m specifically talking about the commercial vehicle segment.
But if you take the passenger car, we have had a much better increases that we have been able to take. So with the overall demand, the availability of freight that will get better in quarter three and quarter four, we feel that the opportunity to take further price increases should be better.
Amar Kant Gaur
Understood, Understood. Thank you very much and all the best.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Abhishek Jain from AlfAccurate Advisors Private Limited. Please go ahead.
Abhishek Jain
Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, how’s — CV segment, how is your revenue mix in TBE versus TBR? And how is your market share over there? And what is the outlook for the replacement demand in TBR and TBB?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
TVR and TBB replacement. So as I was saying that the — so on TBR, the replacement demand is holding on, I would say. And it is — when the new vehicle sales are a little lower, the replacement market generally picks up. So we have seen that the quarter two was a little muted as compared to quarter one because of the monsoon. And even the monsoon got extended, in which the construction and mining activity is slowing down. But otherwise, we see that the demand in the long-haul segment is holding even [Phonetic]. Even in PCR segment, we have found that the demand in the replacement market is [Indecipherable].
Abhishek Jain
And how is your lending mix over there TBR versus TBB?
Anuj Kathuria
TBR actually has grown at a little fast — higher rate as TBB. But I would say TBB also, there has been a growth. It has not come down. So, overall, the total — say, in the replacement market, the total size of the market has increased. But in that, the increase is more for the TBR.
Abhishek Jain
So, in commercial vehicle, revenue contribution is around 53% to 55%. There, how much revenue mix for TBB versus TBR?
Anuj Kathuria
Say, in terms of revenue, the total truck/bus accounts for almost say 52% to 53% for us. And there, roughly 40% comes from TBR.
Abhishek Jain
40% comes for TBR. And as you are adding the new capacity, most probably that these ratio will increase.
Anshuman Singhania
Yes, absolutely, the TBR ratio…
Anuj Kathuria
TBR ratio will further go up, because now we are seeing that even in the mining segment, the use of TBR is increasing.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
And our capacities are all being set up in TBR, not in TBB.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. So because of the capacity constraints, your TBR percentage in overall revenue is lower. Right.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
See, within the segment of truck and bus, the TBR definitely will go up. But overall, in terms of revenue contribution, I think because we are setting up large capacities for passenger line radials. So, that will go up.
Anuj Kathuria
Yes.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. And my next question is on Cavendish. So, how do you see volume growth over there in next two years, sir?
Anuj Kathuria
See, overall if we see, first of all, see, overall — in terms of Cavendish or JK Tyre, we consider like one unit only. But just for the sake of your question clarity, the increased percentage is [Speech Overlap] Yeah, so the growth percentage you’re talking about, right?
Abhishek Jain
Yeah, yeah.
Anuj Kathuria
In terms of this, JK Tyre will be higher going forward because of the increase in passenger line radial tires capacity is getting added.
Abhishek Jain
So, I’m asking about the Cavendish now. They have achieved a revenue of INR975 crores. So, how do you see the revenue growth over there? And what would be the key figures of the revenue growth and the EBITDA margin over there?
Anuj Kathuria
So the EBITDA margins are definitely better presently in the case of Cavendish Industries Limited. And going forward, in terms of EBITDA margins, I do not know, but the passenger vehicle margins are better. So I believe that this will move in tandem with Cavendish Industries in the case of JK Tyre also.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Yeah, but Cavendish, the revenue growth is there [Speech Overlap] because we — as you know, we are announced a capex of around INR260 crores, so that will add to the tonnage that we’ll be able to produce over there. So, therefore, we expect that this additional capacity will be utilized in FY ’26, and therefore, it will result in a revenue growth.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. And my last question on the Tornel Mexico. So how much exports in overall revenue in the Tornel Mexico and what are the key markets where you are exporting?
Arun Kumar Bajoria
Can you repeat your question, please?
Abhishek Jain
My next question is on Tornel Mexico. So how much export of the Tornel Mexico in the different countries, and which are the key markets?
Arun Kumar Bajoria
The key markets for export from Mexico are Brazil and Latin America. And in Latin America, it is Colombia, it is Argentina, Venezuela, Cuba. So these are the countries and they keep varying because it depends on the exchange rate of those countries. As you know that the exchange volatility, whether it is Brazil, the real was at around BRL4.7, BRL4.8 to $1. Today, it is about BRL5.6 to $1. So the import into Brazil has become, to that extent, much more unremunerative, very expensive.
And so also the other countries in Latin America. For example, Argentina and Venezuela, the exchange rates have absolutely gone haywire. But however, the total exports versus the import — the domestic is something like 41% to 59%. Let’s say 60% is domestic and about 39% to 40% is export.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. So, because of this imposed — imposing duty on the Chinese companies, by the 32% rate, domestic business will see a significant growth from this quarter onwards?
Arun Kumar Bajoria
Yes, yes. We are expecting our domestic sales to go up significantly going forward. That is from November ’24 onwards.
Abhishek Jain
Thank you sir. That’s all from my side.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mitul Shah from DAM Capital. Please go ahead.
Mitul Shah
Sir, thank you for the opportunities. Sir, my question again on the Mexico Tornel. Sequentially, Q2 is always strong on a Q-on-Q basis, and we have seen 10%, 15%, 20% type of a revenue growth compared to Q1. This time it is a decline. So, as initially you highlighted about this new government formation-related challenge, etc. But anything one time or it is overall slowdown which has an impact on the Q2 and we’ll see similar impact at least for next few quarters?
Arun Kumar Bajoria
No. Basically, the subdued demand sentiments in the Latin American markets have been impacting our exports. So, that has also impacted the overall sales, as you’ve seen. And the currency depreciation. That is the Mexican peso versus the rupee, as I said, that it has come to minus 10%, is leading to lower conversion rate.
So, in terms of peso, it does not show less. But when you see in the consolidation, which takes place when we get the figures from Mexico into India as per the Indian GAAP, then this difference is seen, because earlier when we were converting peso sales into Indian rupees, it was at 4.5, 4.6 and today, it is at 4.2. So that is the difference that you are observing. As I said that, that is 10% to 11%.
Mitul Shah
On a sequential basis, sir, Q-on-Q 10% to 11%, you are talking?
Arun Kumar Bajoria
Yes, yes, yes.
Mitul Shah
Okay. And second question is on, how much would be roughly inter-segment between Cavendish and JKI?
Anshuman Singhania
This is approximately INR250 crores. The inter-unit sale you’re talking about, right?
Mitul Shah
Yes. Yes, sir.
Anshuman Singhania
INR250 crores in the quarter.
Mitul Shah
And lastly, sir, any meaningful benefit of this restructuring of Cavendish going forward with — merging with JKI?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
So, many benefits, of course, would be accruing because of this restructuring of the amalgamation which has been proposed and approved by the Boards of these two companies. And some of them will be large economies of scale, which we can get the benefit of. And also the simplified structure, the cost benefits, the ease of doing business, and also some tax benefits which will accrue. Because there is some carried forward losses in Cavendish in income tax, not in balance sheet. So, in income tax, whatever carried forward losses are there. So those will get, let’s say, set out over the year or maybe in one-and-a-half year or two years’ time. And that will be the benefit to the [Speech Overlap]
Anshuman Singhania
And unlocking value of the stakeholder and consolidated tire operation to one single entity.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Yeah. Right. So, we will see a lot of synergical benefits. So we thought that this would be the best time and the ideal situation is because now Cavendish Industries also is generating a good amount of profitability and business. So this has stabilized now more or less. So, it is the best time to give the benefits of — to reap the benefits of the merger.
Anuj Kathuria
Some duplicity will be reduced with maintaining [Phonetic] two companies. So that will give us some benefit to the cost.
Mitul Shah
Right sir. Right. Great, sir. Sir, can you quantify these losses? How much would be the — those carry forward losses which can be used as a benefit for?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Exactly, would be very difficult. But we will work out and we can discuss separately.
Mitul Shah
Okay, sir. Thanks, and all the best.
Anshuman Singhania
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Aditya Akhani [Phonetic] from Omkara Capital. Please go ahead.
Aditya Akhani
Thanks for the opportunity. Sir, could you help us with the revenue numbers [Technical Issues] for either [Technical Issues] for India business?
Anshuman Singhania
Sorry, your voice was breaking. So, can you repeat your question?
Aditya Akhani
Yeah. Could you help us with revenue mix by market and product line for India business for either Q1 — Q2 or H2 — H1, sorry?
Anuj Kathuria
So, by market, the broad numbers I can share with you. The replacement is 60% kind of the revenue. OEM is about, again, it’s varying from time to time depending upon the situation. But this is between 26% to 30%, and the exports revenue.
Aditya Akhani
This is for Q2 or H1?
Anuj Kathuria
This is for Q2 I have talked about. Both are more or less similar.
Aditya Akhani
And revenue mix by product line?
Anshuman Singhania
And revenue mix by product line, truck and buses, again the major contributor to the revenue to the extent of about 60%. And passenger car radials would be about 30%. And balance — not 30% exactly, but it is also improving. So let’s say about 25%, 26%. And the balance is from two-wheeler and non-truck.
Aditya Akhani
Okay. And thank you so much.
Anshuman Singhania
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Amit Agarwal [Phonetic] from Leeway Investments. Please go ahead.
Amit Agarwal
Good afternoon. Just wanted to know six months volume, what is the growth in the six months for last quarter, sorry Y-o-Y?
Anshuman Singhania
Could you please repeat the question?
Amit Agarwal
What is the volume growth Y-o-Y, six months — for the six months, in Indian operations?
Anuj Kathuria
Volume growth?
Anshuman Singhania
One second please. On H1 FY ’24 compared to H1 FY ’25, domestic sales volume was around lower single digit.
Amit Agarwal
Could you define an exact percentage?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
See, this was not across the categories. Actually, this lower number in terms of volume basically was because of the two, three wheeler segment, but the value is not substantial.
Amit Agarwal
No, that’s Okay. But I just wanted to know the exact like price rise and volume growth so that I can — it helps me in forecasting the future growth of the company and the capacity utilization of the company.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
When you correlate that then it is better to look at the tonnage rather than the…
Anuj Kathuria
Sir, in any case, as we have discussed in our — Anshuman ji talked about in his speech, this quarter is not a real representative quarter for the future growth of the company, simply because the OEM was not doing so well. And therefore, this is a picture, completely different this quarter.
Amit Agarwal
That I understand. But still it’s better if you could give me the percentage. Is it 2%, 5%, 6% or 3% or is it negative like because the turnover has been stagnant. So I just wanted to get an idea, what is the price rise and what is the volume growth in Indian operations?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
So, in terms of market segments, we can talk about this. So replacement is low single digits, OEM is double digit, low double digits. And then export is positive, at positive high single digit.
Amit Agarwal
Okay. And so what is the capacity utilization of the Indian operation?
Anshuman Singhania
85% to 90%.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
90%. But again, segment -wise, it is completely different.
Anuj Kathuria
So, radial capacity is 90% and the other overall is 85%.
Amit Agarwal
So what is the increase expected in terms of the capacity in the next two years?
Anuj Kathuria
Next two years?
Amit Agarwal
Yeah.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
So it will all depend upon the kind of demand sentiment. And we are very hopeful that the demand will improve, not only from the third quarter, but overall, the demand sentiment will remain very positive because of the good GDP growth, which is expected going forward. So we had a…
Amit Agarwal
No, that’s okay. But I think in last con call, you said we have been investing INR900 crores or roundabout in next two years. So there will be some expansion on the capacity. So, just wanted to know how much will be the expansion of the capacity.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Okay. I will tell you that also. So for the time being, because you asked me about the capacity utilization in next two years. I think it would be, for radial again, plus 95%. And for the bus [Phonetic], in the similar range of about 80%, okay? And as far as the new capacities which are under commissioning, so we see that because we are expanding our capacities, mostly in passenger car radial tires. So, these capacities will be fully utilized. And these are all large capacity, which is getting added in PCR and also in [ TBR and also in one of the other segment, which is all steel truck — light truck radial tires. So, these are the three categories that we are adding [Speech Overlap].
Amit Agarwal
So, should we expect a roundabout 20% increase in the capacity, total capacity, including bus, including passengers cars and scooters volume-wise?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
No car is — see, car is definitely getting added. But in scooters, we have not announced any increase in capacity.
Amit Agarwal
Okay, thank you.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. The next question is from the line of Mayur Milak from AMSEC. Please go ahead.
Mayur Milak
Yeah, hi. So, on the RM basket, sequentially, you said it is up by about 11%. Have I read it right?
Anshuman Singhania
No. Sequentially, in the RM basket, it is an increase of 6% to 7%.
Mayur Milak
6% to 7%? Okay.
Anshuman Singhania
And so, corresponding, it is 13% increase.
Mayur Milak
Okay, 13% was Y-o-Y, you said and 6% to 7% Q-on-Q.
Anshuman Singhania
Yes.
Mayur Milak
And in your previous call, you had mentioned that in 1Q your price realization increased by about 2%, and you had taken a 1% to 1.5% price hike in the month of July. Now, overall, you mentioned that your price hike for the first half has been 3%, 3.5%. So largely, post July, we have not really been able to take any price hike because of the softness in replacement demand. Am I reading that right?
Anshuman Singhania
No, your numbers are correct. So by H1, we’ve been able to take cumulatively about 3%, 3.5% price increase. And we are assessing the situation now in the — in this quarter as well. In third quarter as well, we are assessing the situation to see the market dynamics. And through that, we will be taking our decisions of price increase.
Mayur Milak
Sure. But so far till November of this quarter, you haven’t really taken any price hike?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
No, we have announced a price hike in the TBR segment in the end of October.
Mayur Milak
Okay. Okay. So you’ve taken one already in this quarter as well?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Yeah. Only for the TBR.
Mayur Milak
For TBR, Right. And sir, coming to overall the demand scenario. So, I think clearly, the industry is reading a typical low single-digit demand scenario, which largely means a steady replacement demand and maybe low-single-digit OE demand. Now from what I understand, almost 70%, 75% really comes from replacement. So, any particular reason that you see that why the replacement has kind of been very sluggish. OE, we understand this inventory thing, but why the replacement not really picked up?
Anshuman Singhania
Anuj ji.
Anuj Kathuria
So, the replacement demand, actually, what was expected in the beginning of the year, it has not played out to that level. And quarter two was, in particular, more muted. Maybe this time we had extended monsoon and the construction and mining activity also had slowed down during this period. But now — and even the — because of the elections, the capex that is generally invested in the infra did not happen. So all this, the overall economic activity was slow.
The movement of the core sectors such as cement, steel, even that was also curtailed to a large extent because of the construction activity being muted. So now with all that kind of — we see that the government spend will be much better in infra. We will see movement in the core industries. We will also have the — now with the rural economy also starting to churn, I think so overall, the economic activity will increase and that would also result in better utilization of vehicles with more freight availability.
Mayur Milak
Sure. Sir, one structural question, if you allow me. So the direct freight corridor is pretty much on its verge of getting completed, the Western corridor. What we understand from the experts on railway is largely that there could be a dramatic shift of goods from road to rail, which will have its own sweet impact on the M&HCV industry, per se. So if the overall run were to come off, does it also mean that the replacement cycle in the M&HCV should kind of see a structural slowdown in the next two, three years. Any take from your side? Have you done any kind of reading into that?
Anuj Kathuria
See, over here on dedicated freight corridors, it is not yet in place. But what we have understood and we, in dialogue with our OEM customers because they are also monitoring this very carefully. Finally, the total freight availability or the freight movement will be increasing somewhere similar to the GDP growth rate. That is quite closely correlated.
So, what the OEMs are also working upon is to make the overall per ton per kilometer transportation cost by road more attractive than the rail. So that is one thing which we are working on by improving the vehicle dynamics, vehicle performance, and we are also working along with them to improve the fuel efficiency or even the other cost per kilometer of the tire also.
So that, in my view, should — despite the dedicated freight corridors coming in, which will take some part of the freight and especially there, where there is point-to-point movement is possible, say, maybe cement, maybe steel. But wherever transshipment is not something which is going to help there, either it will be road or, at best, it will be multimodal.
So finally, in the long term, five to six years, yeah, there will be a lot of multimodal. But in our understanding, even in a developed economy, say, if you take China, even there, till date the road transportation has almost account for 60% to 65% of the total movement. And the road infrastructure is also improving with the national highways and also the state highways being built. So, we feel that while yeah, some of the freight will move towards the dedicated freight corridors, but it will not reduce the overall — the availability for the road sector.
Mayur Milak
Okay. So, your view is the industry will continue its capex as anticipated?
Anuj Kathuria
Yeah, absolutely.
Mayur Milak
All right. All right. Thank you so much.
Operator
The next question is from the line of Basudeb Banerjee from CLSA.
Basudeb Banerjee
Yeah, thanks. And just to continue with cumulative [Technical Issues] 6%, 7% sequential raw-mat basket inflation. But if I look at [Speech Overlap] Yeah. So, just to continue with the price hike aspect, which you just now discussed, and the raw mat basket sequential cost increase. But if I look at the last [Technical Issues] from the high [Technical Issues].
Operator
Sorry to interrupt you, sir, there is a disturbance in your line.
Basudeb Banerjee
Am I not audible?
Anshuman Singhania
Yes, better.
Basudeb Banerjee
Yes. I’m saying, sir, the raw-mat basket, which moved up 6%, 7% in Q2. How do you see that with today’s commodity price come down in Q4, per se, not in Q3 because it will have a lag effect. So this is with respect to the question of further price hike, whether price hike is required at all or not because commodities would have corrected equivalently in — by Q4 [Phonetic] to this price?
Anuj Kathuria
In Q3, definitely, the price hikes would be required, but it will finally find its own level as to the raw material prices will also start softening. So while there will be some lag effect which will go into Q3. But maybe more towards the end of the quarter, we may see some softening happening. And definitely, there will be — we are looking out for further increases, but that will purely depend on the market’s ability to absorb that increase. As I mentioned earlier, one increase we have taken at the end of quarter or end of October, and we would be looking at other segments if there is any opportunity.
Basudeb Banerjee
And second question, sir, last time when one can recall that you have reduced prices in replacement market to pass on commodity benefits?
Anuj Kathuria
Could you repeat that question, please?
Basudeb Banerjee
Sir, last time when did JK or industry in general reduced replacement market prices to pass on commodity price benefit?
Anuj Kathuria
No, that was not a significant thing. It was mostly because, if you remember, prior to that, there was an increase, a sharp increase of 40% plus in the commodities. So overall, if you see, we were able to sustain whatever increases we had taken, even when the commodity prices had softened thereafter.
Basudeb Banerjee
Got you. Understood. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next follow-up question is from the line of Abhishek Jain from AlfAccurate Advisors Private Limited. Please go ahead.
Abhishek Jain
Thanks for opportunity again. Sir as you mentioned that you are adding the capacity in the TBR and PCR, and these are the fully utilized now. So what would be the incremental revenue in FY ’26 because of these capacity additions?
Anshuman Singhania
So, whatever capacities we are adding, these are all brownfield projects, and we are expecting 1.1 times to 1.2 times the investment. That is the kind of increase in revenue we can expect.
Abhishek Jain
So when these capacity will be commissioned?
Anshuman Singhania
So these are getting commissioned in different quarters. But you can broadly assume that the second half of FY ’26, all the capacities will start. And then we will have to ramp it up over the next two to three quarters, certainly.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. And sir, as you import raw materials to the different countries like Indonesia, Vietnam, and sir, just wanted to understand what is your import requirement? What is your RM requirement comes from the import, and what is the difference in the prices now, domestic versus imported, in terms of the RM?
Anuj Kathuria
See, again, over here, if you take the different components in the RM, the import percentage or the dependence is, one of the largest areas is international rubber. There, again, it varies from quarter to quarter because the production of the domestic rubber is also not uniform throughout the year. So there, that is one area. But there are other areas where I think so now the domestic capacities are being set up, for example, say, carbon black.
But there, again, for reasons — in some cases, reasons of capacity, in some cases, other commercial reasons, we keep on importing. But very difficult to give you figures because it is strategic and tactical, which changes from every one quarter to the other quarter. So we play it out that way.
Abhishek Jain
So import must be more than a 50% of the overall requirement, sir? Hello?
Anuj Kathuria
Sorry, could you repeat your question?
Abhishek Jain
Sir, I was saying that import would be — must be around 50% of the total requirement of RM?
Anuj Kathuria
Not really. But again, it varies from quarter-to-quarter.
Abhishek Jain
It varies quarter-to-quarter. Okay, and as that freight rate was very high in the last two quarters, but now it has started to go down. So because of this, will you gain the benefit in other services?
Anuj Kathuria
You’re talking about the…
Abhishek Jain
Yes, international freight rates, [Indecipherable].
Anuj Kathuria
Yeah. Yeah. So, ocean freight rates had gone up, but now they have started coming down again. So when the rates had gone up for our outbound, it was always being shared between the customer and us. And now also the similar situation will be there. So, the impact is now mostly kind of negated.
Abhishek Jain
And my last question on the overall debt, what is the current debt in the company and how is your repayment plan for the next two years?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
So the debt repayment schedule is being followed as per what we have to pay fully. And in next two years, basically, we will be reducing our debt by almost about INR1,500 crores.
Abhishek Jain
INR1,500 crores. And what is the current net debt-to equity sir?
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Current debt-to-equity today 0.8:1.
Abhishek Jain
And in number terms, sir.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
In terms of numbers, the net debt is about INR4,000 I mentioned. INR4,340 crores.
Abhishek Jain
INR4,340 crores. And that will reduce to the INR1,500 crores or it will be reduced by INR1,500 crores.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
It will be reduced by INR1,500 crores.
Abhishek Jain
Okay. Thank you sir. Thank you sir. That’s all from my side.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] As there are no further questions from the participants, I now hand the conference over to the management for closing comments.
Anshuman Singhania
It was really very nice session we had with you all, investors and analysts. So I thank you very much, all of you to join Q2 FY ’25 earnings call. And I hope that we have provided all the clarifications which were asked for. Thank you very much. Have a good day. Thank you.
Sanjeev Aggarwal
Thank you.
Anuj Kathuria
Thank you.
Arun Kumar Bajoria
Thank you very much.
Operator
[Operator Closing Remarks]