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J.K.CEMENT LTD (JKCEMENT) Q3 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

J.K.CEMENT LTD (NSE: JKCEMENT) Q3 2026 Earnings Call dated Jan. 19, 2026

Corporate Participants:

Ajay Kumar SaraogiDeputy Managing Director and Chief Financial Officer

Unidentified Speaker

Analysts:

Vaibhav AgarwalAnalyst

Amit MurarkaAnalyst

Kunal ShahAnalyst

Akshay ShettyAnalyst

Harshal MehtaAnalyst

Pathanjali SrinivasanAnalyst

Navin SahadeoAnalyst

Sanjeev SinghAnalyst

Ritesh ShahAnalyst

Rajesh RaviAnalyst

Unidentified Participant

Parvez QaziAnalyst

Siddharth MalhotraAnalyst

Shravan ShahAnalyst

Milind RaginwarAnalyst

Pushkar JainAnalyst

Harsh MittalAnalyst

Parth BhavsarAnalyst

Presentation:

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, good evening, and welcome to JK Cement Earnings Conference Call for the Quarter and Nine Months Ended 31st December 2025, hosted by PhillipCapital India Private Limited. As a reminder, all participant lines will be in the listen-only mode, and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. [Operator Instructions] Please note that this conference is being recorded.

I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal from PhillipCapital India Private Limited. Thank you, and over to you, sir.

Vaibhav AgarwalAnalyst

Thank you, Rutuja. Good evening, everyone. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited, we welcome you to the Q3 and Nine-Month FY 2026 Call of JK Cement Limited. On the call, we have with us Mr. Ajay Kumar Saraogi – Deputy Managing Director and CFO; and Mr. Prashant Seth – President (Business Information and Investor Relations) at JK Cement.

I would like to mention on behalf of JK Cement Limited and its management that certain statements that may be made or discussed on today’s conference call may be forward-looking statements related to future developments and statements which are based on current management expectations. These statements are subject to a number of risks, uncertainties, and other important factors which may cause actual developments and results to differ materially from the statements made. JK Cement Limited and the management of the Company assumes no obligation to publicly alter or update its forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information or future events or otherwise.

I will now hand over the floor to the management of JK Cement for their opening remarks, which will be followed by our interactive Q&A. Thank you and over to you, Saraogi, sir.

Ajay Kumar SaraogiDeputy Managing Director and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Vaibhav. Good evening and welcome to Q3 call. The Board of Directors met on 17th January to review the working for the quarter ended 31st December, 2025 and nine-month period ended 31st December, 2025.

The major highlights are for standalone: The net sales are higher by 14% over the previous quarter at INR3,132 crores as against INR2,754 crores and year-on-year it is higher by 19% as the comparative numbers are INR3,132 crores and INR2,630 crores. For the nine-month period, the net sales are higher by 19% at INR8,555 crores as compared to INR7,542 crores. EBITDA during this quarter was INR536 crores as compared to INR440 crores in the previous quarter, an increase of 22% and it is higher at 10% year-on-year, INR536 as against INR486 in the previous year. For the nine-month period, EBITDA is INR1,648 crores as compared to INR1,232 crores, an increase of 34%.

The comparative margins are for this quarter 17.1%, previous quarter 15.9%, previous year 18.4%. For the nine-month period, the EBITDA is 18.4% versus 16.3% in the previous year. After deducting depreciation, finance cost and exceptional item, exceptional item is towards the new Labour Code liability.

The profit before tax is higher at INR276 crores as compared to INR261 crores and it is lower by 5% at INR290 crores it was in the previous year. For the nine-month period, the profit before tax is INR1,034 crores as against INR637 crores, an increase of 62%.

The EPS for this quarter is INR23.30 as compared to INR22.70. It was INR25.80 in the previous year and for the nine-month period, it is INR89.10 as compared to INR56.70. The EBITDA per tonne is INR9.28 in this quarter as compared to INR9.02, in the previous year it was INR1,022. And for the nine-month period, it is INR1,022 versus an increase of 14% as compared to INR8.96 in the previous year.

As far as the consolidated results are concerned: The net sales in this quarter is higher by 15% at INR3,383 crores as compared to INR2,940 crores and even as compared to previous year, it is up by 20% and for the nine-month period, the net sales is higher by 19% at INR9,565 crores as compared to INR8,028 crores. The EBITDA for consolidated EBITDA is INR558 crores versus INR447 in the previous quarter and year-on-year it was INR492. For the nine-month period, it is INR1,692 crores and previous year it was INR1,262 crores and increase of 34%.

If we look at the profit before tax, consolidated is INR268 for the quarter as compared to INR243 and INR279 in the previous quarter; INR1,000 crores for the nine-month period as compared to INR707 crores in the previous nine-month period. This profit after tax for the quarter considers a new Labour Code liability of INR47.8 crores. If you look at the volume numbers, the grey numbers here, quarter-on-quarter it is higher by 20% and year-on-year 23% and the white business on quarter-on-quarter it is higher by 15% and year-on-year 13%.

As regards the project, the Brownfield 6 million tonne expansion in Central India, out of this the clinkerization unit of 3.3 million tonnes and 3 million tonnes of grinding, 1 million tonne each at Panna, Hamirpur and Prayagraj have already been commissioned. The Buxar Greenfield grinding is the advanced stage of completion, and we feel that within the next 30 days this should get commissioned. With this, we are confident that all the remaining work of the project at Panna like OLBC, etc.

Would also get commissioned within February. And by end of February, the entire work would be completed. We have undertaken a Greenfield expansion at Jaisalmer, so here the work has already started in full swing at the integrated site. The orders for main plant and equipment have already been placed and the civil work has already started and we are hopeful that by September 2027, this should get commissioned. We are soon going to start work at both the grinding locations in Punjab and Rajasthan, so that also we are confident that by September 2027 we should be able to commission the same.

As regards, we have also taken up a Greenfield wall putty plant in Rajasthan and the work on the same has already been started and we expect that by September 2026 we should be able to commission these 4 lakhs tonnes additional wall putty plant. These are the major highlights for the quarter. If you have any questions we will be happy to address the same. Thank you.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Ladies and gentlemen, we will wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Thank you very much. We will now begin the question-and-answer session. The first question is from the line of Amit Murarka from Axis Capital. Please go ahead.

Amit Murarka

Hi. Good evening. Thanks for the opportunity. Just on incentives booked, could you give that number for Q3?

Unidentified Speaker

Q3 number of incentives is lower on account of the GST rate cut and the impact is around INR25 crores. So, last quarter number was INR86 crores and this quarter it is INR60 crores.

Amit Murarka

It was 86 crores in Q2 you mean?

Unidentified Speaker

Yeah.

Amit Murarka

Okay. And it is INR60 crores now. So, INR60 crores should be the run rate, or it will go up now with the Buxar unit starting in this quarter?

Unidentified Speaker

I think Buxar first we would be taking the project GST credit. So, in this fiscal we do not see. So, this run rate of INR60 crores should be there in this quarter.

Amit Murarka

Okay. Also on costs, so in this quarter your other expenses have declined quite sharply while you had explained in Q2 that it was a bit elevated in Q2. But Q3 seems actually a little bit lower than what was generally expected to come through. So, is it like some marketing spends kind of being lower in the quarter or anything like that which led to this lower number or this is a normal run rate to think of?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, there is some marketing spend is lower because it was taken up in September it was higher, especially in the white business. Also, we see that there is a dip in the branding cost. But in this quarter, I think it will be higher than Q3.

Amit Murarka

Okay. And just a last question for Panna Line 2 commissioning. So, your capacity mentioned in the press release is 3.3 million tonnes, but you have been saying that it has potential to do 4 million tonnes. So, by when can we expect that 4 million tonnes potential to kind of get unlocked? Will it be through debottlenecking or how will it happen?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

See, it will take some time. One year I think. We do not need that extra flexibility immediately. I think we would be seeing once we run the capacity at optimal rate for about 6 months or so. So, maybe in the next fiscal it is end of next fiscal that we will see the possibility, how we accelerate it to higher capacity to about 4 million tonnes. But at this point of time, we will take it as 3.3 million.

Amit Murarka

Sure. But some additional equipment will be required to be added to get to 4?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No. Nothing. Not really.

Amit Murarka

Okay. No major capacity. Thanks a lot. I will come back in the queue.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Kunal Shah from DAM Capital. Please go ahead.

Kunal Shah

Yes. Hi, sir. Couple of questions. So, beginning with the mid-teens sort of a base of volume growth, which we have achieved during F26 or will be achieving. What sort of growth now are we targeting over Fragrance 26 to 28 from a volume perspective?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Pardon, I did not get you.

Kunal Shah

Sir, with the mid-teen base of volume growth that we will achieve during Fragrance 2026 on the grey cement, what sort of growth are we targeting for 2027 and 2028?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, see, again, we expect the growth to be in double-digits. Mid-teens may not be possible, but definitely like in 2026, we end up at 20 million. And we are seeing maybe early teens maybe closer to 23 million tonnes, 22.5 million tonnes to 23 million tonnes, and 25.5 — as we go up and it should be anything ranging between 12% to 15% growth.

Kunal Shah

Hello.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yeah.

Kunal Shah

Yes. And secondly, on the capex that, we had mentioned that roughly INR2,000 crores of net debt would be the addition during F 2027 due to the Jaisalmer capex broadly. Now, would that be the peak number or there are chances of that going up as well during F 2028, given, we would need or want to sort of fast track our south expansion? So, all I am just trying to understand is how the management is thinking between balance sheet over 2027 – 2028 versus growth.?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No, see, as far as we are confident. Yes, definitely. Post-commissioning of Panna, we would like to take up the further Brownfield expansion. And maybe it looks like more, as you mentioned, in Karnataka, where we are mostly or almost sold out. So, that looks. But as far as if you see the average debt profile and net debt-to-EBITDA, as of 31st December, we are at 1.41. And I think by March, it could be around 1.6 or something.

And next year, also, FY 2027, it should be closer to 2 or reach 2, I think. And we would get incremental volumes. Yes, because of Greenfield capex is higher. We are not concerned, but we will not delay, we will definitely keep a watch on the balance sheet. But I think our journey for 50 million, still, I do not think so many headwinds coming against that. We should be able, we should be on track for that.

Kunal Shah

Understood. This is helpful. And lastly, just one bookkeeping. So, like during the third quarter, you lost about 1.5% or 2% on realization. I mean, just adjusting with the incentives also. But how much of that have we been able to recover during the first 15 odd days – 20 odd days of Jan, I mean, through these various price hikes, if you could just help on that?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, the price hikes have been there, but we do not gain on incentives.

Kunal Shah

No, which is fine. I am just talking of adjusting for the incentives.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Pardon?

Unidentified Speaker

Adjusting for the incentives.

Kunal Shah

Adjusting for the X incentives, I am saying. On the grey cement X incentives, like the realization that we have lost. How much have we been able to recover, if any, during the first fortnight of Jan?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes, we have been able to recover that. I think we have the numbers, but I think there is a good, because the major recovery has been in the non-trade sales price. So, that should definitely be there.

Kunal Shah

Understood. Sure, sir. Thanks. This is very helpful.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Akshay Shetty from Mirae Asset. Please go ahead.

Akshay Shetty

Good evening, sir. Thank you for taking my question. I have only one question, mainly on the industry trends. So, from an industry perspective, how are you seeing demand trends over next two quarters to three quarters across key regions? And also, with multiple players announcing capacity additions, how do you see the supply situation evolving? Do you expect pricing discipline to sustain, or there could be some pricing pressure increase in certain markets?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, presently, as you said, regarding demand position in the next two quarters to three quarters, we are seeing definitely a good demand in this quarter. So, the March quarter, I think it could be one of the best quarters what we have ever seen. So, it looks like March. And then definitely, as the cycle goes with the March hangover, though it is a good construction period, but marginally in April, the volume does, because there is a lot of inventory of March, which is there in the market.

But we do expect that year-on-year, because the volumes have been lower in the April, June and July, September quarter. This year, the volume should be better year-on-year. And definitely 7% – 8% that is for the industry. So, this quarter, the growth, because the base is also high. So, year-on-year growth, maybe not 8% could be 6% – 7%.

Akshay Shetty

Yes, thank you, sir. That is all from my side.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions]. The next question is from the line of Harshal Mehta from Asian Market Securities. Please go ahead.

Harshal Mehta

Hi, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. Three questions from my end. First, in terms of a couple of quarters, a lot of expansions being around in North, especially from FY29 perspective. How do you see industry pricing discipline and pricing trend? That was one.

Second, in terms of booking, what is our current CC ratio? And do we see any risk in terms of clinker shortage for H2 FY 2027? That was second.

And lastly, in terms of non-trade, we have seen like very sharp jump this quarter. Should we expect our non-trade share to remain at these levels or we expect it to inch down back to earlier levels? That was the third question.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, on your first question, a lot of capacities which are coming up. Yes, a lot of capacities have been. And if we really see, if we look at the demand growth and say 7% or 8%, not being one of the best markets. So, even North requires an incremental 10 tonnes – 12 tonnes incremental volume every year. So, yes, depending on the capacity, which is coming up, it takes time. I think there should not be much pressure unless one or two capacities bunching up, come up one time. At a time, it may have some pressure for a quarter or two, not beyond that. But still, we do not see any major concerns as of now.

Harshal Mehta

So, on the CC ratio, if you can help with that. And do we see any risk of clinker shortage in H2 FY 2027?

Unidentified Speaker

CC ratio is like 67%. And we do not have the clinker shortage. We have a complete clinker backup for our cement capacity.

Harshal Mehta

And on the non-trade part, if you can help with that.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, non-trade, yes. See, again, non-trade was muted for some time. Now, also at the year-end, at every level, the annual budget has to be exhausted. So, this is also one of the reasons for a spot in the non-trade demand. And last year, it was also muted because of the elections, the budgets have to be re-approved. Now, most of the states’ election cycle is also over. So, I think the nontrade demand going forward should be good. It should go in tandem with the cement

Consumption growth.

Harshal Mehta

Thanks, sir, and all the best.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Pathanjali Srinivasan from Sundaram Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Thank you for the opportunity, sir. Sir, I just wanted to know how the lead distance would change for us and how logistics costs will change post commissioning of Buxar plant, because I believe we have been seeding this market for some time from Panna. So, can you give me some color on this?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, after commissioning of Buxar, yes, the lead distance for central plant should definitely reduce because we have been feeding from Prayagraj and others. So, we send clinker directly to Buxar. So, that will give us definitely a benefit. Even as we are seeing, there has been a reduction in lead distance, but the freight per tonne of per kilometer is different in different states. So, actually in this part, the per tonne per kilometer freight being higher.

So, all this may have, it depends on the mix. But definitely with the Buxar commissioning, we should see that both reduction in lead distance as well as some reduction in the freight costs.

Kunal Shah

Got it. Sir, and was there any volumes from Panna line to this quarter? Or was it only from the existing plants?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, there has been some in this quarter itself. There was some clinker production of over 1.5 lakh tonnes from Panna line too. And as we had already commissioned Hamirpur, so there were some dispatches, incremental dispatches from Hamirpur also in this quarter.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

What is the timeline you can expect for this ramp-up for the plant? Because I believe there is some small works are still pending.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Pending where?

Pathanjali Srinivasan

At Panna line 2.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, Panna Line 2, I said, the waste heat and the OLBC pending, which will all the other remaining work at the plant site will get commissioned within February.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Got it. Sir, and incentives for next year, what will be our expectation?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

See, incentive will definitely go down on a per tonne basis with the increased volume and everything and reduction. But we expect that once we have the eligibility and all the new units start getting with Buxar eligibility there, our annual amount, which had on the present had reduced from INR300 plus crores to about INR240 crores, should again go up to INR300 crores.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Got it, sir.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

But it may not be fully in FY 2027. It may be a bit later, a quarter or two difference could be there. But our exit run rate of FY 2027 that could be INR75 crores quarterly.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Got it, sir. Sir, and just one last question. Like our volume growth has been very good. It has been like significantly higher. Any particular region where we have been able to like do better or where we have seen that growth is stronger versus other regions? Could you give some comparatives here?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No, see, major growth is coming from Central India. And as we are doing an expansion, definitely we need to build up our customer base and our sales across all segments for even nontrade. So, for planning for a long-term relationship with long-term players also. We have built up those relationships, which has resulted in a higher volume growth. But wherever, I mean, yes, in this journey somewhere there are non-trade prices being under pressure. The overall relations have been marginally lower.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Got it, sir. And just one last question, sir. Guidance for 2026, we are not changing? We are sticking to 20 million. And any reason why? Because we seem to be like doing very high in terms of nine months.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, we are not changing any guidance on the volume numbers for FY 2026.

Pathanjali Srinivasan

Okay. Got it, sir. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you.. The next question is from the line of Navin Sahadeo from ICICI Securities. Please go ahead.

Navin Sahadeo

Hello.

Operator

Yes sir, you’re audible. Please go ahead.

Navin Sahadeo

Hello. Good evening, sir and thank you for the opportunity. Sir, there are a couple of questions. So, first was that I think for nine months, our volume growth is already 18% – 19%. Should we look at it only from sales, incremental sales from new markets or new regions that we got? Or we got benefit or we could increase our market share in the existing markets as well? That was my question, first.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, if you look at, yes, the major gains in the market has been from Central India. So, where we are reaching out, we are going to new markets. And as we had entered when looking to Bihar and expansion, so we had already started making a footprint stronger in Eastern UP and Bihar. And again, we will continue to grow over there because we feel that we are still not a major player in the market.

So, we would like to consolidate our position. And as soon as possible get into, if not double-digits market share, at least mid-high market share in all of the, in the entire market. So, that has been the major areas where we have grown. And when we have grown in the South, there was the tomatoes growth. So, we have, our numbers are higher in the South. So, we have also grown in the North, but in tandem with the market.

Navin Sahadeo

Okay. So, in North, you are saying our market share remained intact while we would have gained in Central, South and East, of course, was altogether a new market. Is that correct?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

East was a new market, and it was, yes, it was not there. It is a very small number. So, that is definitely there, small number of Toshali. But it does help in increasing the percentage. But again, it is not material.

Navin Sahadeo

Right. Sir, for the North market, our analyst experts are basically suggesting that December was probably a record month. In the sense that, like, we could see volumes which were similar to even March for some of the players, March 2025.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes. So, practically, we are nearly, it has been good. All our plants, mills and sales have been operating.

Navin Sahadeo

Of course.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

I think it is a good market. The demand is good. And it would be not only for us, I think for most of the North players, it should be, this quarter could be a sort of a sold-out situation as was in the last year.

Navin Sahadeo

Sir, my question was around pricing like if that was the kind of record numbers we saw. But I think pricing failed to impress in the month of December. And January, I believe there is some price hike. So, my question was, what convinces us that, like, we will be able to see a better pricing in January and February if it failed to impress in December?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes, definitely, that is a big possibility. And I hope it does happen. Because, one, in the last few months, the non-trade pricing, there had been a lot of pressure on the non-trade pricing. So, the difference between trade and non-trade had increased a lot, which was putting pressure on the trade pricing, sir. Still, the trade prices did not fall, despite the huge difference. But now, since the non-trade, with the improved demand, the non-trade prices have improved. This should definitely be the platform for a possible increase in the trade prices. And looking to the demand, there is all possibility that the trade pricing should increase.

Navin Sahadeo

Understood. And just one more question, if I may. From your presentation, I was looking at the data on pet coke and fuel costs. My observation was that while your monthly pet coke cost in dollar terms that you are reporting is increasing, and of course, on an average basis, it is certainly going up in Q3, and there has been a rupee depreciation as well. And despite that, our cost per Kcal or the fuel cost that we give has fallen down sequentially. So, what difference are we doing to get a lower cost?

Unidentified Speaker

No, Navin, actually it is because of the mix, because Indian fuel consumption has increased.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Central plant is actually basically more on, closer to the mines, it is more on Indian coal, which is cheaper. The pet coke is mainly used in the northern plants and in south plants, but in the central plants, it is a reverse situation where we are using the pet coke only as a blending fuel, about 20% and the AFR is also higher. So, these are the two factors.

Navin Sahadeo

So, as we ramp-up the new kiln, which is again in Central India, we should get further benefit of domestic coal or we should be insulated that much more.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes, we have a linkage, domestic fuel, and even as of now, even the open market domestic fuel is cheaper. See, this is the advantage to be closer to the coal sources. So, we are closer to the coal field, so we have an access to cheaper fuel.

Navin Sahadeo

Understood. And just again, one broader question, if I may. So, in this quarter, as you rightly pointed, non-trade prices went down, and I can see, of course, your mix also changed in favor of non-trade. So, my question was, post GST rate cut, I thought the expectation was of seeing benefits towards premiumization, so to say, but that seems to have been on the other side, in the sense, negative, as the non-trade is falling much more and share of trade is also falling. So, how

Should one look at it from that point of view?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

I mean, the non-trade, see, incremental volume has gone into non-trade. But our premium brand volumes, in absolute numbers, the trade numbers have increased, they have not gone down and the premium product percentage has also increased. Quarter-on-quarter, if we see from July – September quarter, it was 14.9%, against which we have done 17.3% of premium products in this quarter. And so, there is an increase, even if you say July – September is a lean period, if we take it year-on-year, it was 15.8%, against 15.8%, we have 17.3% of premium products.

Navin Sahadeo

Understood, my only, if I may say, fear was that as we ramp-up our Panna Line 2, at least in the first year, our exposure to non-trade then would be much higher than what we saw in Q3 or you think it can come down?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No, not as a percentage it will not be, this has been, so, I do not think as a percentage it will increase further.

Navin Sahadeo

Understood. That’s helpful, sir. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Sanjeev Singh from Motilal Oswal. Please go ahead.

Sanjeev Singh

Thank you for the opportunity sir. Just one clarification, so you were saying 20 million tonne of volume, that implies only 1% – 2% kind of a growth year-on-year basis. So, does it mean that given the clinker utilization rate of 97% in 3Q, probably volume growth from existing plants could be flat. And the incremental volume could be from the Panna plant, because at the same time you mentioned that industry growth could be at 6% – 7%. And given JK Cement’s historical

Growth rate, we would assume that the volume growth should be higher than what the industry is doing. So, just needed one clarification on this. And secondly, if you can put out some number on what has been the pricing improvement in January so far, both in trade as well as trade segment.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, on the clinker, yes, definitely see the clinker, the major volumes is going to come from Central India, and North it will be at the rate with the market, we are not going to lose any market share. Because again, there are twin markets, and all that can be serviced accordingly. So, we are not going to lose any market share, either in the North. And again, and we will definitely be growing overall more than the market in this quarter also.

Sanjeev Singh

And any number to the pricing improvement which we have seen in January?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, the pricing, see, what we are seeing from latter part of last week of trend, which we have seen now is on the non-trade pricing, definitely about, in terms of INR15 to INR20 improvement in the non-trade pricing. And in trade, definitely that has helped, one, it has released the pressure on trade, we have really not seen any increase in trade. But definitely, since the pressure is off, it will help in restructuring our discounts, and further and increase some of trade prices wherever possible.

Sanjeev Singh

Okay sir, thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Ritesh Shah from Investec Capital. Please go ahead.

Ritesh Shah

Hi, sir. Thanks for the opportunity, sir. I have a couple of questions. Sir, first is, would it be possible for you to dissect the fuel mix, given you hinted on the linkage, so what is pet coke? How much is linkage? How much is non-linkage? And any indication of how that will play out in the next quarter?

Unidentified Speaker

No, see, presently the pet coke consumption was around 60%, and balance is the Indian Coal and AFR.

Ritesh Shah

Okay. And sir, how much will be linkage over here?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, in case of, I mean, I think about, of the Indian Coal, around 70% is linkage fuel and 30% is open market.

Ritesh Shah

This helps, sir. Thank you for this. Sir, my second question is on exceptional items. How should we read this number of INR46 crores? Is there a retrospective element over here? How should we understand it and why is it under exceptional?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

See, as an exception item, this is under the new Labour Code, which has been effective from 21st of November. So, on the new Labour Code where they have spelt out the new wage and the definition of how the gratuity and the leave and encashment has to be calculated, where they have said, the gratuity of the total payment, 50%, has to be the basic amount and the leave and encashment.

So, we have broadly reviewed that and we are still doing the fine working. But we have tried, actually, this could be the liability on account of this revision, though we are still discussing and freezing the numbers, but this is the number. This is how we have arrived at the number.

Ritesh Shah

Sure. Sir, last two questions. Sir, capex number, if you could highlight for full year 2026, 2027, 2028, and if you could just dissect Jaisalmer out of the capex number, annual capex numbers.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, capex number in this year should be INR2,500 crores to INR2,800 crores and out of that Jaisalmer would be INR600 crores. Actually, as you see, whatever number we had given without Jaisalmer, which was around INR2,000 for FY 2026, that remains as it is. The incremental capex in this year will be on Jaisalmer, which is around INR600 crores and another INR50 crores – INR60 crores on the Nathdwara wall putty plant. Otherwise, we are broadly, in line whatever earlier plan which we had given of the capex.

Unidentified Speaker

And next year capex would be around INR3,500 crores, which would include around INR3,000 crores of the capex on the 7 billion tonne expansion.

Ritesh Shah

And so 2028?

Unidentified Speaker

2028 will be the spillover capex in the range of INR1,000 crores – INR1,200 crores.

Ritesh Shah

Okay, this is helpful. And sir, any update on Toshali limestone? I think we were engaging with the government. Any update over there?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No, it takes time. We are still in dialogue with the government. They are still, they are considering our request. And so, any plans on that, what we need to do as a next step will depend when they really, we have the order, we have everything in hand. See, one is a positive indication, that is definitely there. But when we are working with the government, unless you have the order and everything, the agreements in place for the long-term supply with a fixed rate, we cannot. But still, I mean, there is no negative discussions in the dialogue, all in the positive manner.

Ritesh Shah

Sure. Sir, if I can squeeze one question, if you allow.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yeah, please.

Ritesh Shah

Sir, can you give some indication on the trade and non-trade price cap across regions?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, now, with the improvement, I think the gap would have come down nearly normally INR20 to INR30. Maybe in certain pockets, still remaining at, still there at INR40. But it has come down. It had gone up to INR60 rupees – INR70. So, that was the position.

Ritesh Shah

Sure, sir. This was very helpful. Thank you so much. All the very best.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Rajesh Ravi from HDFC Securities.

Rajesh Ravi

Yes. Hi, sir. Good evening. My first question pertains to your cost saving projects. Could you quantify how much we have achieved so far in FY 2026? And what is the guidance for full year and next year?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, as we said, we had a plan of about INR150 to INR200, anything in ranging. FY 2025, we had already done a particular journey of INR50 – INR60. We had a plan, I think, exit of March, we should be, mostly everything done at around INR125. Maybe we have another INR25 to INR40 for next fiscal.

Rajesh Ravi

Okay. So, the INR150 you have already done, INR100 odd?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

INR125 should be the exit of March 2026.

Rajesh Ravi

Sorry, I did not get you. FY 2025, you achieved INR50 to INR60 and this you are saying another INR25 FY 2026?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Another INR50 – INR60 rupees this year, which means the exit of FY 2026, it is around INR120 – INR125. Okay?

Rajesh Ravi

Okay. Understood. And the rest for next financial year looking at.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Okay.

Rajesh Ravi

Okay. And second on this labour cost provision, whatever you factored in as an exception, what would be the recurring impact on a quarterly basis here on?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

We are just working out on that. Not much clarity because A, there would be some, we would be the present other practice in the industry was on a CTC basis. So, the CTC used to be very flexible. So, now we need to restructure the salary and then try to work out what would be the impact. Having said so, there could be some impact when we have no exact numbers, but not something substantial, maybe monthly INR3 crores to INR4 crores at the most. This is what we see.

Rajesh Ravi

Okay. So, this quarter, everything has been in the exceptional. There is nothing which has been built up in the employee cost.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, none of the labor code liability has been included at part as part of salary and wages.

Rajesh Ravi

Understood. And just two clarification. Incentives, in the last call you had mentioned for Q2 was INR70 crores, which you said is INR86 crores and now Q3 is INR60 crores. So, Q2 was INR86 crores or INR70 crores?

Unidentified Participant

No, INR86 crores was the same quarter last year.

Rajesh Ravi

I was asking for…

Unidentified Speaker

It was not Q-o-Q.

Rajesh Ravi

So, Q-on-Q was, what is the number in Q2? INR70 crores and this quarter it is INR60 crores. Is this understanding right?

Unidentified Participant

Yeah.

Rajesh Ravi

Okay. And the INR60 crores run rate will continue, but exit FY 2027, you are looking at going back to around INR75 crores run rate.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes, at the end, because, you will have more incentives on new place. But on per tonne, it will be lower. The absolute amount we expect that by last quarter, it could be INR75 crores.

Rajesh Ravi

And on the pricing, you mentioned non-trade INR15 to INR20 improvement has happened so far in Jan and trade, what was the number you mentioned?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

I said there is no number on trade. It has removed the pressure on pricing.

Rajesh Ravi

Okay.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

And it may help us in certain discounts. We have to see how the marketing gets back to us and what is the competition doing.

Rajesh Ravi

Understood. So, basis that only trade prices may go up if non-trade prices remain firm.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes, yes.

Rajesh Ravi

Understood. That’s great. And all the best. Thank you sir.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Parvez Qazi from Nuvama Group. Please go ahead.

Parvez Qazi

Hi, good afternoon, sir. And thanks for taking my question. So, two questions from my side. What was the real share this quarter? And second, any comments on the paint business will be helpful. Thank you.

Unidentified Speaker

Real share was 9% in this quarter.

Parvez Qazi

Sure, sir.

Unidentified Speaker

And paint turnover was INR103 crores in this quarter. So, for the nine-months, it is INR285

Crores.

Parvez Qazi

And anything about profitability, etc., by when can we achieve a break-even here?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, on the paint, what we see that we should end the year at around closer to INR385 crores – INR390 crores, maybe INR400 crores. I am not too confident in INR400 crores, but definitely between INR380 crores to INR390 crores. And this year, we should have a lower loss as compared to last year because we are seeing the loss to be lower. Now, since we have already worked out, we have an improved cross-margin. We have worked out on the product. And next year, what we see when we cross the INR500 crores number with a higher gross margin, that FY 2027, we should see a break-even in the paint business.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Siddharth M. from Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.

Siddharth Malhotra

Hi, sir. Thanks for the opportunity. I just wanted to check, when you say that non-trade prices are up approximately INR15 per bag to INR20 per bag, is it similar across regions or is it largely confined to the North region when you give this particular comment?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

It is across all regions. You must have seen the reports. It is across all regions, even in South, Central, East.

Siddharth Malhotra

Okay, sir. Understood. That was all from me. Thank you, sir.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Shravan Shah from Dolat Capital. Please go ahead.

Shravan Shah

Hi. Thank you, sir. Sir, a couple of questions. First, in terms of the next expansion, post Jaisalmer, we will be going for the Muddapur 5 million tonne expansion.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

See, this is, in all probabilities. I cannot say firmly this is what we are going through. It depends upon the situation and what the board finally approves. In all likelihood, as a plan, yes, it should be there. We are still working on it. So, that is the position. We are not announcing that this is after Jaisalmer, we are taking up Muddapur. This is the most likelihood, as we have said, and it will depend on the situation.

Shravan Shah

Got it. And then, most likely, by the end of this year, we should be announcing that or it would be in FY 2027, we will be starting it?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

I think that announcement will come post-commissioning of Jaisalmer. It is a big project, and it is a Greenfield, large project. But, having said so, again, if the market is different, it depends on how the market is, what is our balance sheet, if we want to pre-pone something, but two months, three months, six months. It all depends on how you see the market at that point of time, how you see your balance sheet.

Siddharth Malhotra

Okay. Because then we have to start announcing two projects simultaneously because we need at least 12 million tonnes.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

I know that. See, as I said, once we see, you are confident that yes, as we announce Jaisalmer, before commissioning of Panna, it was only for a reason that the balance sheet was in order, the project was well under control. We were confident that we would commission the project well within time, well within cost. And our balance sheet was supportive. So, we announced Panna, a big project, before completion of Panna. We announced Jaisalmer before completion of Panna.

Yes, there could be an announcement before completion of Jaisalmer, but we have to wait and watch, see that everything is in our control, and then make a call.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Milind Raginwar from BOB Capital Markets. Please go ahead.

Milind Raginwar

Thank you for this opportunity, sir. May I request you, if you can share the clinker production number for the quarter?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes. The clinker production for this quarter is 3.6 million tonnes.

Milind Raginwar

3.6 million?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yes.

Milind Raginwar

And, sir, if you can just give us some idea on the fact that what would be the cost differential for North vis-a-vis the Central and East? Just in the sense, a ballpark number?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

See, the cost factors, there could be sometimes a variation of about 100, because where in the Central we get advantage of low fuel, in the North we can use more AFR. So, it is different, but not much of a difference.

Milind Raginwar

Okay, sir. Okay. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Pushkar Jain from Mili Capital. Please go

Ahead.

Pushkar Jain

My question is already answered. Thanks a lot.

Operator

Thank you. The next question is from the line of Harsh Mittal from Emkay Global. Please go ahead.

Harsh Mittal

Good evening sir. Thank you for the opportunity. So my first question is that what is the fuel consumption cost?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Fuel consumption, the average rate you mean for the fuel?

Harsh Mittal

Yes.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

It is around INR7,900.

Harsh Mittal

In terms of per Kcal?

Unidentified Speaker

INR1.50.

Harsh Mittal

Okay, so this is flat compared to the quarterly average.

Unidentified Speaker

Quarterly average means?

Navin Sahadeo

So, I am asking for the spot, the current.

Unidentified Speaker

Current means for January.

Harsh Mittal

Yes.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

No, see, current, see, pet coke prices are still a bit higher than what we are hoarding. But since we have an inventory, it will not have much impact. But yes, all the new shipments will be higher because mainly, A, because there has been an increase in the fuel in pet coke by USD7- USD8, and the rupee devaluation.

Navin Sahadeo

Sure. Sir, my second question is that what would be the exit utilizing for the Panna Line 2 for the December quarter, exit?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Exit utilization.

Harsh Mittal

Yeah.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

So, exit utilization, see, clinker, again, it depends. Since we will not be able to fully utilize the plant. So, clinker, we would be definitely in a position to optimize the kiln by the end of the quarter. Two, as far as, all the grinding capacities are concerned, it is a seasonal, it is very difficult when all the output warranties would be completed. But utilization, very difficult to say what would be the utilization. Exit utilization, it is very difficult to say what would be that number.

Harsh Mittal

Okay. The last question, can we assume the commissioning of the grinding units at Rajasthan and Punjab to commission simultaneously with the Jaisalmer project?

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

At least one grinding unit should definitely be there at the split location, if not the both. But let us, but still, since there will be a grinding at the integrated plant, even if there is a delay, we will be able to manage.

Navin Sahadeo

Sure, sir. This is very nice. Thank you. These were my questions.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, due to time constraints, that would be the last question for today, which is from the line of Parth Bhavsar from Investec. Please go ahead.

Parth Bhavsar

Yeah. Thank you. All my questions have been answered.

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen. As this was the last question for today I now hand the conference over to Mr. Vaibhav Agarwal for closing comments.

Vaibhav Agarwal

Thank you. On behalf of PhillipCapital India Private Limited we would like to thank the management of JK Cement for the call and also many thanks to the participants for joining the call. Thank you very much, sir. You may now conclude the call. Thank you.

Ajay Kumar Saraogi

Yeah. Thank you everyone for joining the call.

Unidentified Speaker

Thank you.

Operator

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