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Eureka Forbes Limited (543482) Q4 2026 Earnings Call Transcript

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Eureka Forbes Limited (BSE: 543482) Q4 2026 Earnings Call dated May. 20, 2026

Corporate Participants:

Pratik PotaManaging Director and Chief Executive Officer

Gaurav KhandelwalChief Financial Officer

Analysts:

Siddhartha BeraAnalyst

Keshav LahotiAnalyst

Unidentified Participant

Renu BaidAnalyst

Achalkumar LohadeAnalyst

Umang MehtaAnalyst

Parikshit KabraAnalyst

Presentation:

Operator

Ladies and Gentlemen, good day and welcome to the Eureka Forbes Limited Q4FY26 earnings conference call. We have Mr. Pratik Pota, Managing Director and CEO and Mr. Gaurav Khandelwal, CFO Eureka Forbes with us. As a reminder, all participant clients will be in the listen only mode and there will be an opportunity for you to ask questions after the presentation concludes. Should you need assistance during this conference, please signal an operator by pressing Star then zero on your touchtone phone.

Please note that this conference is being recorded before I hand it over to Mr. Pratik Pota. Please note the disclaimer. Certain statements made by the management in today’s call may be forward looking statements. These forward looking statements reflect management’s best judgment and analysis as of today. The actual results may differ materially from the current expectations based on a number of factors affecting the business. I now hand the conference over to Mr. Pratik Putta. Thank you and over to you Sir.

Pratik PotaManaging Director and Chief Executive Officer

Good afternoon and I welcome you all to the Q4 earnings call of Eureka Forbes Limited. In quarter four we delivered a strong performance despite a progressively challenging operating environment through the quarter. Revenue for the quarter grew 11.6% year on year to Rs 684 crores driven by double digit growth in a water purifier business and continued strong momentum in our emerging categories. Our overall product business grew in double digits during the quarter and the growth was driven on the back of volume growth and improving.

Mix growth was also broad based across channels and geographies. The E commerce channel disruption last quarter also normalized towards the end of the quarter and will not be a drag going forward. Very encouragingly, our quality of growth continued to improve. We are seeing a broader growth profile with multiple categories contributing growing service revenue and improving customer metrics supporting long term business trend. Our service business momentum sustained through the quarter and we took several initiatives to unlock the large filter sales opportunity.

During the quarter we launched a major influencer led marketing campaign that has already generated over 1 billion views. We also continue to make strong progress on customer experience response. Turnaround times improved significantly, escalations reduced sharply and we rolled out additional initiatives to further strengthen service quality on profitability. While input cost inflation intensified to the quarter, we delivered an adjusted ebitda margin of 13.2%, our highest ever, which is a strong reflection of the inherent strength of our business model.

As you’re aware, the West Asia crisis has led to sharp inflationary pressures coupled with currency depreciation. In response to rising costs, we implemented a calibrated price increase of 6 to 7% on an average in April and we will remain agile as the situation evolves. Let me now step back and reflect on the full year gone by and the progress we made in our transformation journey. FY26 revenues grew 11.3% to Rupees 27.10crores despite a challenging macro backdrop for much of the year. This was our second consecutive year of double digit growth.

Our product business delivered growth in teens for the third year in a row while water purifier saw temporary moderation up to strong growth in FY25. The category has grown at a 3 year CAGR of over 12% and we remain confident of its growth trajectory stepping up as we go forward. Consumer awareness around the risks of untreated water is rising and we will continue investing behind category growth by addressing the barriers of awareness, relevance, affordability and availability. Our emerging categories continue to scale well.

Robotics delivered strong growth and expanded its presence in organized retail. Air purifiers grew 2.7x in FY26 albeit on a low base and we see this as a significant future growth opportunity. Water softeners also maintain strong double digit growth supported by increasing awareness and our own focused investments behind strengthening go to market capabilities. Udechup Forbes is now clearly evolving from being a one category company into a multi category health and hygiene company and that strategic shift is increasingly becoming a meaningful source of growth.

It is important to note we are not just participating in category growth in these categories in several areas if not all. We are actively helping shape and category to investment in awareness, consumer insighting, distribution and relevant innovations in service. FY26 marked a clear turning point in customer experience. Several service KPIs are now at all time high levels and we have materially reduced the extreme outliers. Our ambition now is is to move from good to being great and making customer experience a true source of competitive advantage for us.

On the service business side. AMC bookings grew in double digits in FY26. Filters remain an exciting opportunity to tap into towards that. As we’ve spoken about in the past, we launched a new simplified assortment of filters and filter kits set up A new distribution system and began investing in consumer education. The early response has been encouraging, but we need to keep in mind that building this business requires changing years, if not decades of established channel and consumer behavior and hence sustained investment focus and some patience will be called for.

For the full year, adjusted EBITDA stood at rupees 332 crores with margin of 12.2%, up 55 basis points over the previous year. This marks a third consecutive year of margin expansion from 6.3% in FY23 to 12.2% in FY26. Importantly, we have achieved this even while continuing to step up our growth investments which increased 13.2% in FY26. Our stance remains absolutely clear. We will continue to invest beyond growth and when required, our bias will remain towards higher growth investments. Our balance sheet also strengthened significantly and we have moved from a net debt of Rupees 193crores in June 2022 to a net cash surplus of Rupees 443crores today, giving us strategic flexibility including for inorganic growth opportunities as and when they arise.

As we look ahead, the environment as we know remains uncertain. The evolving geopolitical situation, input cost increases, currency pressure and the potential impact of inflation on consumer demand all warrant close observation. In this context, we are sharply focused on two clear priorities. Number one, stepping up growth through sustained investments and sharper execution. Number two, driving efficiency by aggressively reducing wastage and improving productivity. Overall, I believe that Eureka Forbes has built a very strong foundation, has the right strategy and the right set of plans and has an extremely capable and energized team that gives us confidence enough ability to continue delivering sustained, profitable growth in the periods ahead.

With that, let me now hand you over to Gaurav for more details on our financial performance. Gaurav.

Gaurav KhandelwalChief Financial Officer

Thank you Prateek and good afternoon everyone. I will first start off with the FY26 full year performance. Revenue grew 11.3% year on year to 2,710 crores. This was the second successive year of double digit growth and was underpinned by double digit growth in six out of eight quarters. For our continuing businesses, this growth was broad based and there were two key aspects to this year’s top line performance. First is our shift from being dependent on a single category to having multiple growth drivers.

This was instrumental in ensuring strong overall product growth in teams for the third consecutive year now. Secondly, our service revenue growth improved versus the previous years. Moving on to gross margins. Gross margins for the year expanded by 46 basis points to 58.8%. I want to highlight two aspects here. First, our gross margins have remained range bound at 58% to 60% over the last three years. Now this is a reflection of our balanced portfolio mix management and the well institutionalized COGS program.

Second, looking ahead, we are beginning to see some input cost pressures starting from quarter one of FY27. This triggered us to press the button on price increase of an average of 6 to 7% of across categories and price points. While this did not impact FY26 gross margins materially, it is something we are monitoring very very closely. If input cost inflation sustains at current levels, there will be some gross margin headwinds in FY27 that we aim to mitigate through a series of actions across pricing, mix management and COGS initiatives.

Let me now walk you through the details of operating expenses. Employee cost for FY26 grew by 7% to 328 crores and came in at 12.1% of revenue versus 12.6% of revenue last year. The increase reflects the normal salary increments and measured headcount additions aligned to growth. However, the drop in people cost as a percentage to revenue is a clear source of operating leverage for us. ANSP spends for FY26 grew by 13.2% as we believe our growth investments are enabling growth. This is a deliberate strategic choice and we will remain focused on investing for growth.

Service charges for the year grew by 11.2% largely driven by increase in our AMC bookings, while other expenses excluding ANSP spends grew by 13.4%. Putting it all together, our total operating expenses excluding the ANSP spends as a percentage of revenue declined by 27 basis points to 35.7% giving us the benefit of operating leverage. Adjusted EBITDA grew by 16.4% for the year to 332 crores translating into a 12.2% margin up 55 basis points over FY25. Adjusted PBT pre exceptional grew by 18% to 278 crore while pre exceptional PAT grew by 19% to 190 crore.

Reported PAT for the year came in at Rupees 160 crore. This year’s PAT included the impact of the new wage code which was taken in quarter three in FY26. We further strengthened our balance sheet ending the year with a net cash surplus of 443 crore and we generated a free cash flow of 237 crore representing 148% of reported PAT. This is despite a step up in capex from 55 crore in FY25 to 84 crore in FY26. We have consistently targeted an FCF to PAT conversion above 100% and this trend has continued in FY26 coming closer to FY26 Q4 performance Revenue for the quarter grew by 11.6% year on year to 684 crore led by strong growth from emerging categories and a double digit growth in the water purifier category.

Employee expenses grew by 11.3% year on year to 88 crores, largely driven by higher incentive payouts. Service charges grew by 2.7% year on year to 85 crore. This was a combination of increase in spends due to increase in AMC bookings but with an offset caused by efficiency programs focused on addressing leakages. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter grew by 13.1% to 90 crores with an underlying adjusted EBITDA margin of 13.2%. I am happy to share that we have delivered 13% plus margin in two out of four quarters.

In FY26, adjusted PBT grew by 8.1% year on year to 73 crore and PAT came in at rupees 51 crore after a quarter three that was impacted by transient channel inventory issues. Quarter four clearly demonstrated the resilience of this business. To summarize, we believe that the business today is on a strong footing. It has been two years of double digit growth for the business and sustained margin expansion. The fundamentals remain intact with the categories becoming even more relevant though consumer sentiment remains mixed.

Looking ahead into FY27, the key variable is the uncertain macro environment. Input cost pressures are real with no end in sight yet we have a number of initiatives in progress aimed at mitigating its impact. Our key focus in FY27 is on stepping up revenue growth while at least holding margins. We will continue to stay disciplined on cost, root out inefficiencies and execute against our priorities with consistency. I will now hand it back to the moderator for the Q and A.

Questions and Answers:

Operator

Thank you very much. We will now begin the question and answer session.

Siddhartha Bera

Anyone

Operator

Who wishes to ask a question may press STAR and one on their touch tone telephone. If you wish to remove yourself from the question queue, you may press STAR and two participants are requested to please use handsets while asking a question. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now wait for a moment while the question queue assembles. Our first question comes from the line of Keshav Lahoti from HDFC Securities. Please go ahead

Keshav Lahoti

And thank you for the Opportunity. First, I want to get a sense that you have taken the price increase from April onwards. So was there a channel stopping towards the. Towards Martian? So possibly that can lead to a cycling muted growth in April. And how has been the things so far in April and May?

Pratik Pota

Hi Keshav, thank you for the question. We had announced our price increase towards, well towards the end of last quarter in the last two, three days of March. So while there was some upstocking in a few pockets, there was no material channel loading which happened because of the price increase and therefore we expect no impact of that in our quarter one performance.

Keshav Lahoti

Understood. Now we have been seeing, you know, double digit growth in service booking from last one year. So is it fair to assume from Q1FY27 onwards at least service revenue will also take a double digit trajectory? And how are the things happening on, you know, number of service initiatives which you have taken and you have announced on, you know, Investor Day? What is the progress on the same.

Pratik Pota

Yeah, so I’ll, you know, I’ll begin with your first part of the question then request GK to also come in and add. So we are pleased with the progress that we have been making in our service business. We’ve had the fourth consecutive quarter of double digit growth in bookings in AMC Bookings and therefore that momentum has sustained. We also have, as we shared in Investor Day, kicked off a new growth vector which is working on unlocking the filters opportunity and that work stream is in market right now.

We’ve launched the new assortment, we’ve got a new solution system in place. The focus has now moved to generating consumer awareness and creating greater pull for genuine Aquaguard filters through the parallel service network. And that work is on. As I mentioned in my opening remarks, the influencer campaign went live about a couple of months ago and we were very, very encouraged to see the strong response we brought to that. So all those work streams are in motion. But like I said, we recognize that this involves changing many, many years of established channel and consumer behavior and for this behavior, and this is our Carteca, which gets purchased infrequently.

So this behavior change will take time. But what we are seeing as early evidence is encouraging the other initiatives that we spoke about in the Investor day aimed at digitalizing the entire service network, aimed at improving customer experience, aimed at giving much visibility to our service network and to our customers. I think all of those initiatives are in fact going exactly as per plan and I think that’s one reason why our customer service KPIs have improved. So Significantly. So, yeah, I think in terms of all the interventions, we are pleased with the progress we are making and on the revenue recognition.

Gaurav, over to you,

Gaurav Khandelwal

Keshav. So you’re absolutely right. We’ve had during the course of the year bookings growth on a sustained double digit basis. I think the important part is that it started from the early part of the year and hence we’ve been able to get a part of that impact within the year itself. So we’ve seen the impact of that play out in quarter three. We see that impact playing out in quarter four as well. When we look at our service revenue growth year on year going ahead, we do expect that impact to continue in the coming quarters as well.

I think one important call out that I would have is that, you know, you will see this impact very, very clearly when we, when we release our annual report. When you see the service growth between an FY25 and what you see in FY26, I think going ahead, one dimension to call out is that while we’ve had, you know, sustained growth in our bookings, a very conscious choice that we had made was also to drive the multi year mix because we wanted to lock in customers for a longer period of time. Because the more multi year mix that you do in, you know, the more is your chance to kind of elbow out the gray market operators.

So hence the impact of that would come of our FY26 bookings. Growth would come in FY27. But you may not see the full impact yet because some of that revenue may come in FY28 because the share of a multi year mix in our AMC bookings has gone up quite significantly. But very clearly, to summarize, when we report our full year numbers, you will see a step up in our service revenue growth.

Keshav Lahoti

Got it quite clear. Just to follow up on this, how far are we to, you know, year double digit service revenue growth?

Gaurav Khandelwal

I think, Keshav, from our perspective, I think all the interventions are in place. I think the bit on Filter is an important pivot that we did during the course of this year and that provides an additional opportunity to generate revenue. I think the key dimension that I would like to just reiterate is that there is a very entrenched consumer behavior, there is a very entrenched channel behavior, the way they operate. And I think from our perspective, it is about just making sure that we keep all these considerations in mind and back it up with the right product, right portfolio.

And, you know, how do we keep creating that pull and a Part of that was, you know, launching the influencer videos in this particular quarter. But this is going to be a journey

Pratik Pota

If I just add to that Keshav, I think like Gaurav said, all the input enablers have been deployed or are being deployed as we speak. The step up to a double digit growth in service lies in unlocking this filter opportunity and therefore towards that we’ve rolled out all the possible interventions, including the right products, building the right distribution, and now increasingly investing in consumer awareness and consumer education. You will see that play out and step up in the near future as well.

And we remain confident that as all these interventions play out, we will see a step up in filters growth and therefore in service revenue as well.

Keshav Lahoti

Got it? Quite clear. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Chanchal Kumar Khandelwal with Birla Mutual Fund. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Participant

Hi. Am I audible?

Pratik Pota

Yes.

Unidentified Participant

Hi. Thanks for the opportunity. Pratik and Gaurav, just on the service revenue, you have seen your projection, you’re talking about by FY30 almost doubling your revenue and your operating profit growth even higher, which implies more than 20% CAGRADE. Now, first question is on the service revenue. I mean, we are seeing deception happening at various places. I mean, if I were to say right from quick commerce to urban clap, to various people who have been able to reach to the urban consumer. Now, do we have to do some intervention that this service revenue, apart from the filter which we have spoken about, are we thinking differently that this service revenue which is a core of us be sticky and we tag with someone or do something which makes it sticky that so that we win for longer term because the deception by various other platforms is happening as you speak.

Any thoughts there?

Pratik Pota

That’s an interesting question. Let me respond to that in two parts. I think the broader point you’re making is absolutely valid, which is that today’s urban consumers is getting increasingly accustomed to faster and more agile ways of servicing her. Quick commerce being a great case in point. And therefore our service delivery has to measure up to that enhanced expectation. So what we’ve done very consciously this year, or rather last year, is to make a very specific promise to customers of service within a particular slot.

Earlier, our delivery promise was a 24 hour tat. In other words, delivering a service to a complaint in 24 hours of booking. We have now moved that to a specific two hour slot promise and we are doing very well against that promise. So that’s the first step. The second step we are working on, analogous to what BigCommerce is doing is working on a similar four hour service promise that from the point when a customer is either buying a new product or placing a service request, can we turn around that complaint in four hours?

And there are very interesting new models we are exploring towards that and these are not models that we’ve explored in the past. We haven’t talked about them publicly, but these are very, very specific initiatives that we’ve taken in put in place and right now they’re in pilot mode as you can imagine before we scale them up. In our categories, as you’re aware there is a water category which requires an installation, but there are other categories which don’t require SOAP and therefore a quick turnaround or quick delivery.

Quick promise actually very amenable in these categories. I think we spoke about in the last earnings call that in quarter three a big source of air purifiers for us was using the Quick Commerce platform. So coming back to your question from a quick service point of view, we are indeed exploring various different avenues and many pilots are in play to enhance enhance the speed of service and therefore improve the delivery that we permissively make to our customers. Similar to what you see in quick commerce etc.

Now your question was also about revenue. Are we looking at different ways of enhancing our revenue flow through we have several initiatives in flight. The one thing I’m going to speak about, the others I’d rather not speak about right now but but the one thing I do want to talk about is extended warranty and service bundling and some of those initiatives are in play. Like I said, we are still in pilot mode and moment we have some results to share we circle back with you and with the largest group of investors and talk about that.

But yes, I mean you can be sure that the changing world around us of Quick Commerce, of technology LED service disruption and service promise enhancements are giving us thought and giving us lots of stimuli on how we can evolve our own service offerings. And you’ll see some of this play out in the near future.

Unidentified Participant

So that’s useful. The only point again to deliver on this is that our brands are much stronger than what our sales is and we have a right to make our brand much much stronger. Stronger. And there’s a customer pool by itself. But our customer C is looking at service as a platform when all these services are available and that’s the reason the pivot to urban cloud or various other platforms. So we’ll have to do something in other platform for our service revenue to be consistently growing with us.

Otherwise someone else will disrupt and you’ll be focusing on this four hour service or five hours. So there is disruption happening at some of the places which may, which may affect your core and the core is what your brand stands for. So that’s what I just wanted to delve on.

Pratik Pota

That’s fair, Chantel. And you’re right and we are absolutely watching this very closely to ensure that we are not blindsided and that we look for and spot for disruptions, if any. But equally, if I flip it over, and we alluded to this briefly in the investor day as well, the fact that there is a service platformization not only is a potential source of risk, but it is a very exciting source of opportunity for us as well. The reality is that today we service multiple categories. Water is the most widely known, but we service today.

Robotics, softeners, air purifiers, conventional vacuum cleaners, commercial devices which are deployed in the market. So we already have a number of categories to whom we provide service, for whom we provide service. We are building a technology platform as we spoke about in the investor day, which allows us to be multi tenant, multi category and fairly flexible in how we are able to onload market technicians and provide customers these different service offerings. Having traveled this journey and a lot that will be completed in this financial year, it will allow us to think of possibilities which are beyond our current categories.

But that is for the future. I don’t want to get ahead of ourselves, but that is something clearly that we are keeping on a peripheral vision. The fact that service and service platformization can be a source of meaningful opportunity and in the longer run, meaningful value creation. That is absolutely something that we are thinking of.

Unidentified Participant

So thanks. Wish you all the best. Thank you.

Pratik Pota

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Renuk Pugalia with IIFL Securities. Please go ahead.

Renu Baid

Yeah. Hi, Good afternoon team. So my first question is from a near term perspective, given the steep inflationary impact across product categories on the consumption bucket, do you see risk of demand getting impacted ahead of monsoon season and any allied risk of down trading within the customer segment? Also with this year expected to be a drought like situation, from seasonal perspective, do you see the sales of water purifiers getting impacted in years of weak monsoons? That’s the first question.

Pratik Pota

Yeah. No. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for the question. Let me start with the first one which is do we expect any disruption on account of the inflationary environment? I think, as I mentioned earlier in my opening remarks, that given the cost pressures and Given the currency pressures, we took a calibrated price increase of between 6 to 7% early in April and that got rolled out. It took some time for the price increase to play out in the market and because of the trade inventory, etc. That said, the price increase is indeed in the market now and the early days.

The early indicator that we have seen is that the price increase has landed well and we do not see any impact as of now on sellouts or on tertiary sales, number one. Number two, as you are aware, we have a wide portfolio which fells multiple price points and therefore we are able to offer consumers meaningful solutions at these different price points. As of now we are seeing, like I said, neither a meaningful impact on sales nor any indication of consumers down trading. But like you said, that’s the risk that we are conscious of and we navigate carefully as we go along.

On your second question of the likely risk to the business of a drought situation, we have looked at the data. We do not expect this to have a material impact on our water purifier business going forward. Keep in mind, Renaud that and as you are well aware, our penetration of the category is very, very low. Number one. Number two, in the recent past there’s been growing news of the risks and the dangers of drinking un untreated impure water. There have been unfortunately very, very many, too many health incidents in the recent past and they’ve occupied newspaper headlines.

And we are seeing as a consequence consumer awareness clearly grow and we are seeing consumers and families prioritize water purifiers and more generally health over other durables. So we do not expect the drought, if it materializes, to have any impact on our business. I think. And just to sort of pull back and summarize to both your questions, the fact is that the inflation and the cost pressures notwithstanding, we have seen a sequential pickup in the momentum of water purifiers and the growth has indeed increased.

Now I know that there is still a lot of uncertainty ahead of us. We don’t know what’s going to unfold. So I don’t want to say we are out of the woods yet, but clearly as the quarter is progressing because of the rising consumer awareness, we are seeing greater traction for the water purifier category.

Renu Baid

Got it. And for the second leg of the question, since robot as a product category is largely import dependent, so far the JV that we have, the exclusive arrangement that we have with Dixon by when do we expect to fully localize the manufacturing of robots in India? And if you can Also help us update a small bookkeeping question for Gaurav. The revenue mix between products and services of Excel 26. Thank you.

Pratik Pota

So, Renu, on the first part of your question, like you rightly mentioned, our robotics portfolio is imported. Yes. Given the pressure, both the commodity cost pressure, the input cost pressures there, plus the currency impact, we have taken a small price increase in the portfolio and that has landed, like I said, reasonably well. That’s in the market now. We do not see yet any impact on growth, but we are watching this very, very closely. The Dixon arrangement is about manufacturing SKDs. And as you’re aware, the quality control order, the QCO of VIS has got pushed out to September of this year.

And as we come closer to September, you will start seeing the manufacturing and the assembly migrate to Dixon over the next three to four months on localization. That will be a progressive journey starting in the next couple of quarters, but it will take some time to completely play out. For the moment, however, we are moving from importing FG to assembling from SKDs using our Dixon partnership. Yes,

Gaurav Khandelwal

Renu, on the second part of your question, we will be giving out a specific numbers as part of the annual report. But I can certainly throw some color on it. On our product business, we got multiple growth drivers in place and one should expect the product growth to be reported in teams. When you see the annual report equally, you will also see a step up happen in a service revenue as well. So you will see a step up in growth in that as well. But the specific numbers are something that we will be sharing as part of our annual report.

Renu Baid

Sure. Thank you. And best session. Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Achal Lohade with Nuvama. Please go ahead.

Achalkumar Lohade

Yeah. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, sir. Thank you for the opportunity. So just a clarification. Did I hear you right when you said, you know, you, you would like to hold on to the margins for FY27? Have I heard it right, sir? So that means stable margins y for FY27.

Gaurav Khandelwal

Yes. Achill, let me kind of throw some color on it because given the situation, I think there are multiple moving parts here. But let me just step back a bit first. I think we’ve had a business that for three years in a row, we’ve had a margin expansion play out. Importantly, within that, we’ve seen multiple sources of margin improvement. So in year one, it was driven by cost. You know, you’ve seen margin improvement happen through operating leverage. And more recently in this year, you’ve seen it improve by gross margins.

Which means that as a business we’ve got multiple levers in place. So that’s one dimensional reality that we are keeping in mind going ahead how we think about the business. And you know, coming specifically to a question on margin, I think there are two key priorities that we’ve kind of set out for ourselves. One is stepping up growth, that is where a lot of energy would be going. And second is scaling up our efficiency projects. So we already have, and you’ve heard us speak about it in the past as well about a COGS program.

Given the inflationary environment, we are stepping and scaling it up even further and these are the two main priorities that we are working on. All this in our mind we believe takes us to a place where with the portfolio that we have, you know, there’s a service product business, there is a price lagging that we have in the portfolio and with the efficiency intervention, et cetera, we believe that we should be aiming for at least a margin hold. But yes, I think we’ll see the situation as it evolves.

But this is certainly the aim that we are taking for this year. I’ll also just clarify and that’s been a position also we look at margins on a full year basis and not necessarily get constrained by a quarter. There is, there may be a quarter noise here and there but I think on a full year basis our aim would be to be holding margins at least.

Achalkumar Lohade

Thank you for the clarification. Just a follow up on that sir. A we would look at double digit growth even in the current year. B we also had the service, you know, the cost against the service bookings actually or AMC is getting actually recognized upfront in FY26. I’m just curious to you know, understand given there would be a benefit of operating leverage and also secondly the you know, the normalization of the service margins or expansion in service margin. Like are we too worried about the cost inflation and that is why we are kind of indicating a stable margins Y for the full year as a whole.

Gaurav Khandelwal

Achal no, you’re right in pointing out, you know, that some of the things that you mentioned do give us a benefit in the year ahead. I think I’m just being mindful of the fact that the cost situation is something which is really fairly volatile. So that’s the only bit that you know, one is very, very mindful of. But as I mentioned and I’m reiterating, we are looking at at least holding the margin. That is what we are aiming for. Equally. We also want to Be very sure that we don’t let a transitionary event impact our long term view of the business and hence we will also remain focused on growth investments.

So it’s a combination of things that we are looking at. There will be certain benefits that come, some of which you pointed out, but equally there are certain challenges to navigate. But this is what we are aiming at this point in time.

Achalkumar Lohade

Fair point. Sorry, just a question on the cost inflation. Is it possible to quantify at this current juncture, given the currency or the commodity prices, etc. What is the overall cost impact on our Cogs? And of that 6, 7% you have taken how much more is needed without assuming any further cost savings initiative? I’m just trying to figure out the cost inflation, the quantum and how much price hike is already taken and how much is required without assuming any cost initiative that, that. I will keep it separately if you could clarify on that, sir.

Gaurav Khandelwal

Sure. I think, see, it’s difficult to put a specific number at an overall level because there are multiple areas where costs are moving. So there is, there is a, there is a polymer impact, there is an impact on metals, there is a foreign currency angle to it. So it is a bunch of things which are there and they have individually different impact on different parts of the business. Having said that, the pricing increase that we had taken in April, which was roughly in the range of 6 to 7% on an aggregate basis, that in our view was addressing to a very large extent the overall impact that we were seeing on the business.

It wasn’t mitigating it in full, but outside of pricing we’ve also lined up a bunch of interventions more specifically about extracting efficiencies and removing leakages. So that is where we are focusing on equally. And I am reiterating, we have the benefit of a portfolio which has got a service product mix. We have the benefit of having products at every single price point. So those are inherent advantages. I think our approach as far as future pricing is concerned is going to be driven by the fact that first we stretch ourselves on how much efficiencies we can extract.

That is what our key focus will be. But we’ll see how this plays along. I’ll just remind ourselves that this is the first time in nearly four years that we’ve taken up pricing and our focus has been on reducing entry barriers in the category. So. So we are also very mindful that we don’t want to be in a situation where we make the category unattractive for a consumer and hence that will be the other consideration. But we believe that the interventions and the mitigating actions that are there, I think right now keeps us at a place where we should be, you know, we should be able to manage it.

But we keep, it’s an evolving situation and we keeping a very, very close eye.

Achalkumar Lohade

Got it. Thank you so much for the clarification. I’ll fall back in the queue. Thank you so much, sir.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Umang Mehta with Kotak Securities. Please go ahead.

Umang Mehta

Hi. Thanks for the opportunity. My first question was on your AMC business, so I just wanted to check. In terms of active AMCs as of year end, would that number have grown versus last year year? The reason I’m asking is if I look at your other current liabilities, at least that number seems to be down. So I, I understand that multi year mix has gone up and that’s why the non current portion has grown. Well, but just this other current seems to be a bit of a issue. So if you can just explain that would be helpful.

Gaurav Khandelwal

Yeah, thanks a month for the question. So while we don’t report the AMC base number as a competitive, for competitive reasons, I think you already picked up among the numbers from the balance sheet. So I draw your attention to the liability balance that stands in aggregate in the balance sheet and that’s a very healthy 9% number that you would have noticed. I think the current and non current is more a mix of the multi year mix that is played out and that has been a very, very conscious choice to kind of lock in customers for a longer duration to and also to elbow out the gray market operators.

But in aggregate we see our deferred income liability to have gone up quite a bit.

Umang Mehta

Okay, so correct me if I’m wrong, but unless you’ve taken a ASP cut, all your, I mean if the volumes have increased, even the other current liability would increase. Right. So either there has to be an ESP cut or volumes could have been flattish. Is that understanding wrong?

Gaurav Khandelwal

Just a slight modification needed there. So current non current is not a function of volume. Volume is just, you know, it’s, it’s about how many MCS are selling current and non current is a function of the duration of your AMC. So the more you sell longer term AMC, which we call as the multi year AMCs then it means that the proportion of non current will be higher. Now that could come from volume or that could come from, that could come from ASP or mix. That’s a separate thing. So. But they are two separate things the big picture is that the proportion of our longer duration EMCs in our business have gone up and hence you see our non current liabilities to have gone up quite a bit.

Umang Mehta

I’ll take it offline. And the second question was on service charges. So you did mention about the reason for, you know, low single digit growth this quarter. If you can help share, how sustainable are these gains? How do you look at service charges over the coming year? That would be helpful. Thanks

Gaurav Khandelwal

Uman. So you know, from a service perspective, as we mentioned in the past, there are two dimensions to it. One part of it is the charge which comes because of bookings and the other is what we pay out for call charges. It could be complaint, it could be installation, it could be visitations, etc, so obviously from a, from a going ahead view, what one should look at is that, you know, there will be an element which goes up in line with what is happening on the AMC booking side. Equally, there are countervailing items at play which is about continuously removing leakages in the system.

So as you can imagine, there are ways and means in which people hack it. We’ve made a lot of progress in putting in digital controls and capabilities. So that is something that we hope will, you know, help us in enduring some of those benefits, some of that we’ve seen in quarter four already and those benefits we expect to continue going ahead as well.

Umang Mehta

Got it. Thank you so much and all the best.

Gaurav Khandelwal

Thank you.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Siddhartha Bera with Nomura. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Participant

Yeah, thanks for the opportunity. Sir. Sir, first question is on the growth outlook. You mentioned initiatives to step up growth. We did see a lot of new launches happening last year. So some color, I mean how much are some of these categories like filters, softness and other imaging categories contributing to this year’s revenue? And how much should we expect acceleration from many of these categories in the next few years? Just to understand is it more near term or it may take a few years to play out like you mentioned in the early part of the remark.

Pratik Pota

Sorry, that was a good question. So let me just, let me just talk about the first part of your question. I think as part of our strategy of growing from being a one category led company to being a multi category health and hygiene business with several growth vectors, we have invested behind creating many new businesses. I’m happy to report and share that all of these categories have acquired, I think very strong momentum and meaningful scale as well. Let me start by talking about robotics, which is the largest of them.

All right. Now, robotics addresses a very specific problem statement in urban India of keeping the home clean in an environment where domestic help is not always assured. Robotics portfolio has been growing strongly, consistently over the last three years and indeed it did so last quarter as well. Robotics now contributes as a segment contributes to more than 65, 60% of the overall vacuum cleaner category in the country. And you recall that the vacuum cleaner category was fairly morbid, it wasn’t growing earlier.

And robotics has infused a new lease of life into this category. Cut three vectors driving growth for robotics products and innovation, distribution, expansion and just growing consumer awareness. And our strategy has been to double down on each one of them. We have built out a complete portfolio of products ranging from economy to super premium. We’ve increased distribution. We have now gone into retail as well, both organized trade and independent general trade. And we’ve invested, as you know, in consumer awareness, including Shraddha Kapoor campaign of last year.

This category is, like I said, in strong momentum. And as we mentioned the investor day, we expect it to reach more than 1000 crores for us by FY30. So that is not just a longer term, it is here and now and it is one of the biggest engines of growth for us. Similarly, air purifier, where we began investing in the category meaningfully only this year, we have seen strong momentum build up. As you can imagine, quarter four was a lower revenue category for air compared to quarter three given the seasonality of the category.

But we had a very strong growth nevertheless. And going forward we believe that given just the quality of air across urban India, this category will grow. It will expand beyond north India and it will expand and it will be used not just in winter, but through the year. We have very strong climate of this category, softness again, a very large market, but highly fragmented. 90% of India has a hard water problem and we are investing in growing this category. We had strong growth for the last three years.

We built out a complete portfolio including products which have IoT. And you will see this being a big engine of growth for us as well. Filters that you talked about is, as I mentioned earlier on the call, is a new vector of growth for us. And we began investigating it meaningfully only towards the end of last year, towards quarter three and then quarter four. And just given the very large installed base of aquaguard users who are not in our AMC offer and who actually replace filters and go to the open market to replace filters, addressing that TAM is going to be a big source of growth for us.

But again, like I said earlier, this Requires changing years, years and lots of embedded and entrenched behavior. It will require us to be patient. But we are investing in driving consumer awareness in unlocking all the barriers to this category to grow. So all of these vectors, all of these initiatives are making a difference here and now and they are contributing to growth meaningfully even today as they did last quarter. And all of them have very low penetration. So we see them all having a very long Runway to grow for the next three to five years.

Unidentified Participant

Understood. So second question is on the price hike. I mean you talked about 6 to 7%. So does that factor in the most of the cost pressure you have seen or do you need more? And is competition also taking similar price hike or are we taking the lead here in taking these hikes?

Gaurav Khandelwal

Yes Siddharth. So as I mentioned, our pricing actions along with you know, our interventions on our efficiency programs, etc. That in our view kind of addresses to a very large extent the cost inflation that is there. Having said that, this is an evolving situation and you know we are constantly keeping a very, very close eye on it and would intervene wherever required. So that’s as far as pricing is concerned. On the second part, yes, competition has also responded and we’ve seen price hikes being done by every player.

The reality as it stands for everyone is that the inflationary environment is indeed quite strong and hence, you know, not taking a price increase for anyone would not be viable. But we’ve seen others take up prices as well.

Unidentified Participant

Thanks a lot sir. I’ll come back in that time.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Mehul Desai with GM Financial. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Participant

Hi sir, my first question was on the water purifier segment when you say this FY26 there was an low double digit or teens growth. How was split between volume and price mix in FY26 for water purifier segment?

Pratik Pota

Mehul? No, thank you for the question. As I mentioned earlier on the call, water purifiers as a segment with its low penetration has over the last three years had a CAGR of over 12%. Given the growing category awareness and like I said the low penetration, we expect this category growth to indeed accelerate going forward. The growth that has come in the last three years including last year came on the back of both volume growth as also a mix leading to ASP increase and going forward. Again given the fact that the category has such low penetration, we expect volume growth to be also meaningful driver of EWTN water purifier growth in the future.

Unidentified Participant

Got it. And given that you’ve taken a 6, 7% kind of price hike and at least your commentary suggests that volume growths have not seen any material impact so far. Is this incremental price hike is what is giving you confidence that there could be a step up in revenue growth in FY27?

Pratik Pota

Me. Let me clarify on two things. First one is that as I said, our price increase has gone in relatively more recently into the market and the early indicators are that it’s landed well. I think we are, like I said, we are watching it very, very carefully and we’re hoping that there is no material impact of the pricing on volumes, especially given the fact that the entire category, all competitors have raised prices. So that’s Number one. Number two to clarify. Again, our growth aspiration for FY27 will be not be on the back of pricing, but it will be on the back of driving volume growth.

It will be. You’re aware that we are multi category business, increasingly so. And within each of these categories we have an assortment that spans economy to premium. Therefore, we have multiple levers to drive growth, drive volume growth, drive ASP increase and therefore all of these will be brought to bear to drive growth in FY27. It will. The growth that you will see in FY27 will not be merely pricing led. Just to be clear.

Unidentified Participant

That’s all from my side. Thank you so much.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from the line of Asta Jain with PKD Advisors. Please go ahead.

Parikshit Kabra

Hello. Yeah, thank you. You are audible, ma’.

Operator

Am.

Parikshit Kabra

Yes, yes, thank you for the opportunity. Sir, I wanted to ask you that Arden company has shown a very high growth nearly of 100% in their native business. So is there a possibility that we are losing market share or is it like informal to formal shift is being appropriated Urban company.

Pratik Pota

Thank you for that question. I think given the low levels of penetration of this category entry of new players, increasing innovation is good for the category. It stokes innovation, it stokes consumer interest, it helps the category grow. The launch of new entrants in including the one that you spoke about has been good for the category. It has helped the category pick up and grow. Like I said, in a CAGR of more than 12% of the last three years, that wasn’t the case in the period preceding that.

I’m happy to share with you also that given the sheer strength of our brand, the innovation that we rolled out and the aggression we brought to bear in the market, all driven by our very capable teams, we have have not lost market share. If anything, as we exited the year, we had market share tailwinds behind us so we have not lost market share. I think all of this has helped categories grow. The category grow.

Parikshit Kabra

Got it, Got it sir. So my sales growth this year is very much lower than the long term guidance that we have given. Will there be acceleration this year to meet the long term guidance? And even same applies for EBITDA growth as well.

Pratik Pota

So Asa, our long term guidance that we gave for FY30, we absolutely stand by that. The goals both on top line and on EBITDA and profitability are the goals that we are very much going after. FY20 as we see today. Short of any Black Swan events coming our way, we do see acceleration and a step up in growth or what we deliver in FY26 and we will work towards meeting our long term objectives clearly outlined in the investor day for FY30.

Parikshit Kabra

So my last question would be is it possible to disclose what has been growth in the service revenue as opposed to the service bookings? Are the two converging now?

Pratik Pota

No, so that we don’t declare that. But as

Gaurav Khandelwal

I mentioned earlier we will be disclosing the number in our annual report. I think again as a heads up, what you should expect is for our product business to continue its growth profile in teams and you will see a step up in our service revenue growth versus FY25. We’ll share the specific numbers as part of the annual report.

Parikshit Kabra

Last question, is it possible to. Ma’, am, sorry to

Operator

Interrupt. We need to proceed with the next question please. Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, we will now take our last question which will be from the line of Trisha from Boring Asset Management Company. Please go ahead.

Unidentified Participant

Hello. Thanks for the opportunity. Actually I just want to understand like going forward, what will be our strongest growth driver? Like which category? Or like how are we looking at it? Will water purifiers remain the major categories or how do we see this going forward?

Pratik Pota

That’s such an interesting question. Thank you for that. I think we are fortunate to have a portfolio that provides us a profusion of growth opportunities. Water purifiers, you know, it’s a category which has, like I said and like we all know, very low penetration. But it is a category equally of universal relevance and need. We are seeing this category grow and we are seeing this category accelerate in the future. So that will obviously be. It is a ranker category. It will remain a big engine of growth for us.

Additionally, in the last two to three years we’ve incubated and built Several new growth engines. I spoke about them, you know, just a little while back. Engines like robotics. A very small, in fact a non existent business three years back. It is going to be a thousand crore portfolio for us in the next three to four years. And we are well on track for that air purifier. We live and breathe the problem every day. And not just in Delhi, across large parts of urban India. That’s a portfolio that we intend to build.

And FY26 was a proof of concept, if you will, where we multiplied the revenue almost three times. Yes, of a small base. But we have the conviction that this can be a very large and meaningful source of business and growth for us. Softeners as spoken about again, hard water problem is ubiquitous in India and we intend to incubate and grow the softness portfolio. The aftermarket business of filters again provides us an exciting growth and a profitable growth option and therefore all put together. In response to your question, may I say that in some ways, in some good ways, you almost point for choice.

Operator

Thank you. I would now like to hand the conference over to the management for closing remarks.

Pratik Pota

Over to you, sir. Thank you. Thank you everyone for your time and for your questions on the call today. I hope you were able to answer them to your satisfaction. And if you have any follow up questions or you need any clarifications, please do reach out to us and to the investor relations team and we’ll be happy to circle back and clarify. Thank you so much and have a good day.

Operator

Thank you. On behalf of Eureka Forbes. That concludes this conference. Thank you all for joining us. You may now disconnect your lines.

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