Key highlights from eMudhra Limited (EMUDHRA) Q4 FY22 Earnings Concall
Q&A Highlights:
Himani Shah – Alchemy Capital – Analyst
- Impact on pricing on EMUDHRA products due to geopolitical factors?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- There are two segments for pricing; Digital trust and Enterprise.
- No standard pricing in Enterprise.
- Depends on size, complexity and number of users.
- Currently no pricing pressure in this segment.
- Digital signature also not seeing much pressure.
- With inflation growing worldwide, the prices should be better.
- No standard pricing in Enterprise.
Sahil Desai – Hornbill Capital – Analyst
- Digital trust revenue breakup between direct retail and channel distribution.
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- Trust services, about INR845.6 million.
- Direct retail constitutes about 25-30% of total trust service revenue.
- Enterprise solution, about INR981 million of total sales.
Sahil Desai – Hornbill Capital – Analyst
- Differential between margins for EMUDHRA, from a revenue standpoint, in direct retail vs. channel?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- In the channel, EMUDHRA may realize an average of around INR300.
- In retail, realized around INR1500 per digital signature.
Sahil Desai – Hornbill Capital – Analyst
- On the enterprise side, based on the order book, what’s the growth visibility for FY23?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- It’s projected that in India, the enterprise side is slated for a 30% growth.
- EMUDHRA is striving towards these growth numbers, seeing stable and growing order book.
- Expects the growth to be good for FY23.
Saurabh Thadani – IIFL Securities – Analyst
- Shaping up of pipeline vs. FY22, mainly in the enterprise solution segment?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- YoY, the pipeline has more than doubled.
- Two to three years back, it would have almost tripled.
- Regarding sales pipeline, not converted to order, it has become more than 1.5 times vs. last year.
- Robust growth in pipeline and order book position.
Saurabh Thadani – IIFL Securities – Analyst
- Average duration of current order pipeline in terms of execution.
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- Generally takes 3-4 months for most of the customers.
- Some bigger orders, govt. orders, takes up to 6 months.
Rishi Jhunjhunwala – IIFL – Analyst
- Revenue visibility for FY23 on the Enterprise solution business?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- Don’t want to give any specific guidance on revenue visibility.
- The leading indicators are good and EMUDHRA is working towards it.
Himani Shah – Alchemy Capital – Analyst
- Competitive landscape?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- While EMUDHRA command 38% market share, the next player commands almost 18-19%. And other 2-3 players are commanding 10-15% market share on the digital trust services in India.
- In Enterprise solution, there is almost no local competition.
Sahil Desai – Hornbill Capital – Analyst
- Plans for US market?
Venkatraman Srinivasan – EC
- Two strategies are planned.
- Recruitment of people.
- Current count of 1 will be increased to 7-8 people.
- Enrollment of partners.
- Partners in similar industry.
- Recruitment of people.