CCL Products (India) Ltd Q3 FY24 Earnings Conference Call Insights

CCL Products (India) Ltd Q3 FY24 Earnings Conference Call Insights

Key highlights from CCL Products (India) Ltd (CCL) Q3 FY24 Earnings Concall

  • Financial Performance
    • Revenue of INR664.48 crores for Q3 FY2024, up 24% vs last year.
    • Net profit of INR63.29 crores, down 13% vs last year.
    • EBITDA of INR112 crores.
    • About 800 metric tons of shipments deferred from Dec. to Jan. which led to lower Q3 sales than expected.
    • 9 months YTD revenue of INR1,926 crores, up 24% vs last year.
    • 9 months YTD EBITDA of INR329 crores, up 15%.
  • Outlook
    • Expects to meet full year revenue growth guidance.
    • Volume growth expected to recover in Q4.
    • Profit guidance impacted by Vietnam issue pending insurance claim.
  • Coffee Outlook
    • No slowdown in coffee demand seen.
    • If anything, pent-up demand driving prices higher.
    • Vietnam crop concerns adding to tight supply perceptions.
    • Coffee prices at multi-decade highs and keep rising.
    • Tight supply outlook and speculative buying driving prices.
    • Prices expected to remain high in near term.
  • Capacity Expansion
    • India capacity expansion on track for March.
    • Vietnam expansion on track for Jul-Sep quarter.
    • Vietnam has 40-50% volume growth from new capacity and aggressive selling.
    • Low margin contracts impacted consolidated margins by 2-3%.
    • Expansions to help meet robust market demand.
  • India Business Growth
    • India domestic business at INR230-235 cr in 9 months.
    • Branded business at INR145 cr in 9 months, projected to reach INR200 cr this year.
    • Seeing 40-50% growth momentum in brands after correction in Q1/Q2.
    • Growth across GT, MT and e-commerce channels.
  • UK Acquisition Update
    • Transition period over, started taking over operations from July.
    • Spent 4-5 months reworking product, packaging, promotions with partners.
    • Relaunch with new packaging and products end of March.
    • This year’s numbers not significant, only 15 stores.
    • Will update after March relaunch on market response.
  • Margin/EBITDA Outlook
    • No major deviation expected in margins.
    • Product mix changes between spray dried and freeze dried to impact margins.
    • Focus on small packs and specialty coffee to improve margins.
    • Offset by factors like Vietnam lower margin contracts.
    • Guidance of volume and EBITDA growth remaining aligned holds at annual level.
    • Confident of achieving 18-20% EBITDA growth guidance.
    • Vietnam losses and margin pressure while catching up volumes impacts growth.
    • Volume-led growth in next 2 years rather than margin expansion.
    • Small packs ratio increasing gradually from 20% now.
    • 30% ratio over time to drive margin improvement.
  • Working Capital
    • Working capital facility increased by INR200 cr in India to INR600 cr.
    • Vietnam working capital limit increased from $15 million to $45 million.
    • Overall working capital increased from INR600 cr to INR1000 cr.
  • Business Growth
    • Currently have 4,000 vending machines, looking to build aggressively.
    • Adopting cautious approach for sustainable model.
    • Target to build INR100 cr business from vending in next 3-5 years.
    • Work with many coffee D2C brands and chains on backend.
    • Aiming for INR200 cr branded business this year.
  • Gross Margin and Ad Spend
    • 30% gross margins for overall domestic business.
    • 5-7% higher for branded business specifically.
    • Ad spend at 8-10% of sales.
  • China Business Potential
    • Negligible volumes currently to China.
    • Seeding market in partnership with associate.
    • Expect volumes to start picking up going forward.
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