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Apar Industries Limited Q4 FY24 Earnings Conference Call Insights

Key highlights from Apar Industries Limited (APARINDS) Q4 FY24 Earnings Concall

  • Financial Performance
    • Q4 FY24 consolidated revenue grew 9% YoY to INR 4,455 crores.
    • EBITDA increased 3% YoY to INR 457 crores with 10.3% margin.
    • PAT declined 3% YoY to INR 236 crores.
    • FY24 consolidated revenue at all-time high of INR 16,153 crores, up 13% YoY.
    • FY24 EBITDA grew 24% YoY to INR 1,632 crores with 10.1% margin.
    • FY24 PAT increased 29% YoY to INR 825 crores with 5.1% margin.
  • Industry Updates
    • 14,203 circuit km of transmission lines added in FY24, short of 16,602 km target.
    • Planned addition of 17,500 circuit km per year for next 3 years.
    • 70,728 MVA substation capacity added in FY24, with private sector contributing 15,000 MVA.
    • Renewable energy capacity addition of 18.48 GW in FY24, highest ever.
    • Total installed renewable capacity at 143.6 GW, solar at 81.81 GW.
  • Business Segments
    • Conductors Q4 revenue up 10% YoY, EBITDA/ton at INR 48,453.
    • Oils Q4 revenue up 3% YoY, EBITDA/KL up 15% YoY.
    • Cables Q4 revenue up 15% YoY, EBITDA margin at 11.4%.
    • Oils FY24 revenue up 4% YoY, EBITDA/KL at INR 5,746.
    • Cables FY24 revenue up 18% YoY, EBITDA margin at 11.4%.
  • Challenges and Outlook
    • Increased competition from Chinese exporters, routing products illegally.
    • Short-term slowdown in demand due to ongoing elections.
    • Optimistic about long-term growth drivers in domestic and global markets.
  • Capacity Expansion
    • Ongoing capacity expansion as per plan of INR 350-400 crore capex annually.
    • Expansions across rod making, alloying, stranding, CTC, busbars for conductors.
    • Capacity additions happening continuously to maintain ~90% utilization.
    • Current conductor capacity around 2.1-2.15 million tons, increasing by 10-15% annually.
  • Working Capital
    • Interest-bearing working capital down to ~INR 3,200 crore post QIP funds deployment.
    • Working capital levels to fluctuate based on business volumes and inventory cycles.
    • Quarterly interest cost expectation of ~INR 112 crore at current volumes.
    • Interest to sales ratio expected to be around 2-2.5% as a benchmark.
  • Demand Outlook
    • Short-term US market demand expected to remain soft in current year.
    • Long-term growth drivers intact, some project delays due to interest rate expectations.
    • Healthy domestic demand driven by renewables, transmission lines, infrastructure.
  • Conductor Growth Outlook
    • Expect 15% volume CAGR over medium to long-term.
    • Growth driven by new transmission lines and reconductoring projects.
    • Reconductoring demand to increase due to rising power consumption.
    • Export mix declined due to softness in US market last year.
    • Expect export mix to improve once US demand revives.
  • Conductor Profitability
    • Guiding for INR 28,500/ton EBITDA over long-term.
    • FY24 achieved INR 42,000/ton aided by project execution and provision writebacks.
    • Margins can vary quarterly based on project mix and competitive dynamics.
  • Supply-Demand Dynamics
    • No acute supply chain issues currently for APAR’s products.
    • Industry has increased capacity to meet growing demand.
    • Short-term issues earlier during transition to AL-59 conductors now resolved.
  • Cable Business Growth
    • Domestic cable business grew ~80% in last two quarters.
    • Driven by supplies to Indian Railways, solar, wind projects.
    • LDC (B2C wires) business also grew from INR 170 cr to INR 260 cr.
    • Expect 25% YoY growth in FY25 as US exports revive.
  • US Market Impact
    • US business ~12-13% of revenue in FY24, down from peak of 26%.
    • Expects US market to remain slow in the coming year.
    • Strong domestic demand offsetting US slowdown so far.
  • Competition
    • Facing Chinese competition in both conductors and cables business.
    • Chinese more active in building wires segment (40% of US market).
    • Also entering solar cables segment where company has good product acceptance.
    • Some raids on distributors selling low-priced Chinese cables in US.
  • Capacity Utilization
    • Around 90% capacity utilization for conductor and cable divisions.
    • Planning 10-15% increase in conductor capacity.
    • Targeting 25% year-on-year growth in cable capacity.
  • Growth Outlook
    • Remains optimistic about growth drivers over next 3-5 years.
    • Expects energy transition to provide opportunities domestically and globally.
    • Overall positive outlook driven by renewable energy growth prospects.
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